1.7.09
There’s been a lot of discussion in the last few days about the long-awaited (and twice-delayed) release of the 2004 CIA Inspector General’s Report, which, as Glenn Greenwald explained on Tuesday, “aggressively question[s] both the efficacy and legality” of the Bush administration’s interrogation tactics in the “War on Terror.” As Greenwald also explained,
In anticipation of the release of that report, there is an important effort underway — as part of the ACLU Accountability Project — to correct a critically important deficiency in the public debate over torture and accountability. So often, the premise of media discussions of torture is that “torture” is something that was confined to a single tactic (waterboarding) and used only on three “high-value” detainees accused of being high-level al-Qaeda operatives. The reality is completely different.
The interrogation and detention regime implemented by the US resulted in the deaths of over 100 detainees in US custody — at least [see “Command’s Responsibility,” a Human Rights First report from 2006, PDF]. While some of those deaths were the result of “rogue” interrogators and agents, many were caused by the methods authorized at the highest levels of the Bush White House, including extreme stress positions, hypothermia, sleep deprivation and others. Aside from the fact that they cause immense pain, that’s one reason we’ve always considered those tactics to be “torture” when used by others — because they inflict serious harm, and can even kill people. Those arguing against investigations and prosecutions — that we “Look to the Future, not the Past” — are thus literally advocating that numerous people get away with murder.
In the run-up to the anticipated publication of the report, as part of what blogger and psychologist Jeff Kaye described as “a mini-blog storm on behalf of the ACLU’s Accountability Project,” several bloggers — including drational at Daily Kos, and Empty Wheel, bmaz and Jeff at Firedoglake, wrote articles examining aspects of the Bush administration’s interrogation policies — and, in particular, the question of murders in US custody.
On Friday, I also wrote an article about torture for the ACLU’s Accountability Project, explaining how the hunger strikers at Guantánamo are part of the same torture machine — and, moreover, one that, unnervingly, is still operating today — but as a contribution to the specific topic of demonstrating to the US public, and the wider world, that torture techniques implemented by the Bush administration led to murders in US custody, I’m presenting below some relevant sections from my book The Guantánamo Files, from testimony provided by former prisoner Omar Deghayes, and from a recent report by investigator John Sifton, relating to ten murders in US prisons in Afghanistan, three of which, to the best of my knowledge, have never been investigated at all.
Following the outline proposed by Glenn Greenwald above, some of these murders may have involved a few “rogue” actions, but in general it’s clear that they followed methods authorized at the highest levels of the Bush White House — or variations introduced in a context where limits on abusive behavior had been reduced or eliminated, ostensibly to facilitate interrogation.
The prelude to two notorious murders — and, very possibly, three others — in the US prison at Bagram airbase began in the summer of 2002, when 14 soldiers from the 525th Military Intelligence Brigade at Fort Bragg arrived at the prison, led by Lt. Carolyn Wood, and were soon joined by six Arabic-speaking reservists from the Utah National Guard. Lt. Wood took over interrogations from a team led by an interrogator who later wrote a book about his experiences, The Interrogators, using the pseudonym Chris Mackey. This is how I described what happened next in The Guantánamo Files:
Murders in Bagram (from Chapter 14 of The Guantánamo Files)
Typically, the new recruits were unprepared for what awaited them. Some were counter-intelligence specialists with no background in interrogation, and only two had interrogated real prisoners before. They were also given few guidelines about how to behave. Speaking to the army’s criminal investigation unit in 2004, one of the reservists said that President Bush’s announcement, in February 2002, that the Geneva Conventions did not apply to al-Qaeda and that Taliban fighters did not have rights as prisoners of war, led the interrogators to believe that they “could deviate slightly from the rules.” “There was the Geneva Conventions for enemy prisoners of war, but nothing for terrorists,” he added, explaining that senior intelligence officers told them that the prisoners “were to be considered terrorists until proved otherwise.”
Given carte blanche to treat the prisoners as they saw fit, and under persistent pressure to come up with intelligence, Wood’s team adopted stress positions as a standard procedure, and pushed the policy of sleep deprivation further than Mackey had. Whereas “monstering” [a policy introduced by Mackey, which involved interrogation sessions that lasted as long as the interrogator could stay awake] had never exceeded 24 hours, one former interrogator said that they “decided on 32 to 36 hours as the optimal time to keep prisoners awake and eliminated the practice of staying up themselves.”
It also became standard policy that new prisoners were hooded, shackled and kept in isolation for the first 24 hours of their imprisonment, and sometimes for the first three days. Writing about the army’s report [and the murders at Bagram, in an impressive article for the New York Times in May 2005], the journalist Tim Golden noted that prisoners who were considered important or uncooperative were handcuffed and chained to the ceilings and doors of their cells, sometimes for several days. Although the Red Cross complained, the army report noted that senior officers toured the facility and saw it in operation, but never prohibited its use.
In addition, Bagram became a place of even greater random brutality. Golden described how violence was sometimes used to extract information, or as punishment for rule-breaking, but that on other occasions “the torment seems to have been driven by little more than boredom or cruelty, or both.” In statements to army investigators, soldiers mentioned a prisoner who was “forced to roll back and forth on the floor of a cell, kissing the boots of his two interrogators as he went,” and another who was “made to pick plastic bottle caps out of a drum mixed with excrement and water as part of a strategy to soften him up for questioning.”
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As Carolyn Wood and her team settled in at Bagram, they were joined, in late August, by a new military police unit — mostly reservists — who had received very little training, and who brought with them a new technique, the common peroneal strike, described by Tim Golden as “a potentially disabling blow to the side of the leg, just above the knee,” which soon became widely applied. In the army report cited [above], the MPs claimed they were never told that it was not an accepted army technique, and most said they never heard one of their trainers in the US — a former police officer — telling a soldier “he would never use such strikes because they would ‘tear up’ a prisoner’s legs.”
In early December, the unfettered violence finally spilled over into homicide. The first victim was Mullah Habibullah, who was apparently the brother of a Taliban commander from Uruzgan. Stout and well-presented, he was described as “very confident” by the major in charge of the MPs. After kneeing a soldier in the groin during his anal probe [which all prisoners received on arrival], three guards took him to an isolation cell and shackled his wrists to the wire ceiling, and on the following two days, when he was still “uncooperative,” he was given several peroneal strikes by one of the soldiers, whose lawyer later noted that his client was “acting consistently with the standard operating procedure that was in place at the Bagram facility.”
By the fourth day, he was coughing and complaining of chest pains, and his interrogator allowed him to sit on the floor because he was unable to bend his knees to sit down. Despite this, the violence increased the next day, when two MPs gave him nine peroneal strikes while he was handcuffed to the ceiling in one of the isolation cells. When three soldiers came to his cell later in the day and pulled off his hood, he was already dead. A medic told the military investigators, “It looked like he had been dead for a while, and it looked like nobody cared.”
The second victim was a taxi driver named Dilawar, who was brought in the day after the death of Mullah Habibullah. According to his elder brother, he was “a shy man, a very simple man,” who lived a quiet life with his wife, his young daughter and the rest of his family. On the day of his capture, he picked up three passengers and was passing Camp Salerno, a US base, when he was stopped at a checkpoint by soldiers serving under Jan Baz Khan, the nephew of Pacha Khan Zadran, who were looking for the men who had launched a rocket attack on the base earlier that day. Finding a broken walkie-talkie on one of the passengers and an electric stabilizer for a generator in the boot of the car, they delivered the four men to the Americans at Bagram as suspects.
They were among the last men to be implicated by Jan Baz Khan, and Dilawar’s passengers — Parkhudin, a 25-year old farmer, Abdul Rahim, a 27-year old baker, and Zakkim Shah, a 19-year old farmer — were certainly the last three to be sent to Guantánamo on Khan’s advice, because the Americans finally realized that their supposed ally was actually using them for his own ends, and imprisoned him in Bagram in February 2004. [Note: The baleful influence of Pacha Khan Zadran and Jan Baz Khan is mentioned elsewhere in The Guantánamo Files, as several other men ended up in Guantánamo based on false allegations provided by them].
All this, however, came too late for Dilawar. After the first night, when the four men were handcuffed to a fence, to prevent them sleeping, their interrogations began. Although Dilawar was only a small, frail man, he was regarded as non-compliant, when he apparently spat in the face of a soldier, who gave him a couple of peroneal strikes, which made him cry out, “Allah!” The soldier explained, “Everybody heard him cry out and thought it was funny. It became a kind of running joke, and people kept showing up to give this detainee a common peroneal strike just to hear him scream out ‘Allah.’ It went on over a 24-hour period, and I would think that it was over 100 strikes.”
Over the next two days, Dilawar was subjected to brutal interrogations, in which few words were actually spoken. Unable to assume a stress position in the first session, because his legs were so damaged, he was repeatedly thrown against the wall, and, according to the interpreter, a violent female interrogator stamped on his bare foot with her boot, and kicked him in the groin. The following day, after being chained to the ceiling once more, he was unable to kneel and kept falling asleep. After asking for a drink and being sprayed with water until he gagged, he was returned to his cell and chained up once more, and by the following morning he was dead.
How long it would have taken the US military to investigate the murders, if left to their own devices, is unknown. Instead, they issued a press release, announcing that a prisoner had died of a heart attack, and then refused to release any further information. Investigating further, the journalist Carlotta Gall (in another impressive story for the New York Times in March 2003) traced Dilawar’s family and was shown his death certificate, on which an army pathologist stated unequivocally that, although he had coronary artery disease, his heart failed because of “blunt force injuries to the lower extremities.” The extent of his injuries was later summed up by two coroners: one said that his legs had “basically been pulpified,” and the other said, “I’ve seen similar injuries in an individual run over by a bus.”
Gall’s article provoked an investigation into the murders, which, in 2005 and 2006, led to various minor punishments and reprimands for the soldiers involved, although at no point, as with the torture and abuse at Abu Ghraib, was anyone encouraged to look higher up the chain of command to explain why it was that such murderous treatment had become “standard operating procedure.”
Others who were aware of the murders were other prisoners who had been in Bagram at the time. Dilawar’s passengers, who were released from Guantánamo in March 2004, explained that his family asked them to describe what had happened, but “they could not bring themselves to recount the details,” and Parkhudin said, “I told them he had a bed. I said the Americans were very nice because he had a heart problem.”
[Former British prisoner] Moazzam Begg also reported that he witnessed a death at the end of 2002, but what is even more disturbing is that Begg, Richard Belmar and Jamal Kiyemba [two other former British prisoners] reported another death in July that has never been investigated. All three said that a young Afghan was killed after he tried to escape. Belmar said, “He was fine when they brought him in. They had immobilized him, and the next thing they were carrying him out on a stretcher,” and Kiyemba, who was clearly not talking about either Habibullah or Dilawar, because he was transferred to Guantánamo in October 2002, explained that the murder was used as part of the pressure that was exerted on him to make a false confession: “The only way out, I was told, was to confess. I heard and saw other torture — banging, screaming, cries, barking dogs and a dead guy who had tried to escape. One of the MPs said, ‘Who’s next?’ So I confessed to be left alone.”
The most complete story of this unacknowledged murder was told by Moazzam Begg, who spent ten months at Bagram, where, in addition to the usual abuse, he was threatened with being sent to Egypt for torture, enticed to become a CIA agent, and, at a particularly low point, convinced that a woman who was screaming in a cell next to him was his wife. He reported [in his book, Enemy Combatant] that a guard he knew from Kandahar told him about the murder, admitting that he “started hitting the detainee so hard that he felt he had fractured something,” and that another guard used “Thai-style elbow- and knee-techniques.” He added, “I didn’t know whether they knew that had killed him,” and pointed out that another guard confirmed the murder, but later tried to deny it, saying, “Oh no, he didn’t really die, the reason they covered his face was just to scare people.”
Two more murders in Bagram (from testimony by Omar Deghayes)
In addition, Omar Deghayes, a British resident who was also held at Bagram in this period (and who was released from Guantánamo in December 2007), explained, in a statement made public in August 2007, that he had witnessed two other murders in Bagram. Deghayes said that he “witnessed a prisoner shot dead after he had gone to the aid of an inmate who was being beaten and kicked by the guards” (“The American,” he explained, “said he tried to take the gun”), and that he was also nearby when another prisoner was beaten to death: “One by the name of Abdaulmalik, Moroccan and Italian, was beaten until I heard no sound of him after the screaming. There was afterwards panic in prison and the guards running about in fear saying to each other the Arab has died. I have not seen this young man again.”
As I explained in an article at the time, these two murders were clearly not the same as that reported by Moazzam Begg, Richard Belmar and Jamal Kiyemba, and it appears, therefore, that there may have been five murders at Bagram in 2002.
A murder in the “Salt Pit” (from Chapter 16 of The Guantánamo Files)
The existence of the “Salt Pit,” [a secret CIA prison] housed in an abandoned brick factory north of the capital, remained a closely guarded secret until 2005, when two stories emerged to blow its cover. The first of these was a previously unreported murder, which was exposed by Dana Priest in the Washington Post in March 2005. Priest reported that in November 2002, a recently-promoted CIA officer, who had been put in charge of the facility, in the absence of any senior personnel who were willing to take the job, “ordered guards to strip naked an uncooperative young Afghan detainee, chain him to the concrete floor and leave him there overnight without blankets.” Following their orders, the guards then dragged him around the floor before putting him in his cell, where he died of hypothermia during the night.
According to a senior US official, he then “disappeared from the face of the earth”: he was hastily buried in an unmarked grave, his family was never notified of his death, and the CIA officer in charge of the prison was promoted. The US authorities, meanwhile, showed no willingness to investigate the case further. “He was probably associated with people who were associated with al-Qaeda,” one official said, even though nothing was known about him at the time of his death, apart from the fact that he was captured in Pakistan with some other Afghans.
More murders in US custody (from Chapter 17 of The Guantánamo Files)
The murders at Bagram and the “Salt Pit” in 2002 heralded an increasingly barbarous US regime in Afghanistan. Although Hamid Karzai was sworn in as [interim] President after a loya jirga (grand council) in Kabul in June 2002, which was attended by 2,000 delegates from across Afghanistan, the US military — and, in particular, the Special Forces soldiers operating out of several forward operating bases around the country — behaved like a rogue army.
In March 2003, journalists Adrian Levy and Cathy Scott-Clark traveled to Gardez to meet Dr. Rafiullah Bidar, the regional director of the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission, recently established — with funding from the US Congress – “to investigate abuses committed by local warlords and to ensure that women’s and children’s rights were protected.” Ironically, Bidar told the reporters [for another impressive article, this one in the Guardian] that what his job actually entailed was registering complaints against the US military. “Many thousands of people have been rounded up and detained by them,” he said. “Those who have been freed say that they were held alongside foreign detainees who’ve been brought to this country to be processed. No one is charged. No one is identified. No international monitors are allowed into the US jails. People who have been arrested say they’ve been brutalized — the tactics used are beyond belief.”
Speaking anonymously, a government minister also complained, “Washington holds Afghanistan up to the world as a nascent democracy and yet the US military has deliberately kept us down, using our country to host a prison system that seems to be administered arbitrarily, indiscriminately and without accountability.”
Throughout 2003, at least three more prisoners were murdered by Americans in three different forward operating bases that were part of this arbitrary, indiscriminate and unaccountable prison system. In Gardez, in March 2003, Jamal Naseer, an 18-year old Afghan army recruit, was captured with seven other Afghan soldiers. After being treated “like animals” for 17 days, according to some of the other men, who said that they were hung upside down and struck repeatedly with sticks, rubber hoses and cables, immersed in cold water, made to lie in the snow, and subjected to electric shocks, Naseer’s body, covered in bruises, was turned over to the local police with no documentation of his death and no autopsy results.
Three months later, in Asadabad, 28-year old Abdul Wali, who handed himself in voluntarily in connection with a rocket attack in which he was not involved, was beaten to death by David Passaro, a civilian contractor working with the CIA, who assaulted him “using his hands and feet, and a large flashlight” over a two-day period, and in November, at a base in Gereshk, another Afghan, Abdul Wahid, died from “multiple blunt force injuries” (autopsy report, PDF), 48 hours after he was handed over by Afghan forces.
As with the murders in 2002, the authorities were unwilling to pursue investigations. An inquest into Naseer’s death did not begin until September 2004, after the story surfaced in the media, and in January 2007 the only outcome was that two soldiers received an “administrative remand” for failing to report the murder. In Abdul Wahid’s case, the authorities absolved themselves of blame by claiming that his injuries were sustained in Afghan custody, and in Abdul Wali’s case, David Passaro was charged with assault [not murder] in June 2004, and was sentenced to eight years in prison in February 2007. This was little comfort to Wali’s family, however, and Said Akbar, the governor of Kunar province, noted that his murder became a tool for terrorist recruiting and “created a huge setback for Afghanistan’s national reconciliation efforts.”
A tenth murder, reported by John Sifton
Two months ago, in an article for the Daily Beast, human rights researcher John Sifton provided information about a tenth prisoner murdered in US custody in Afghanistan, Mohammad Sayari, an Afghan who died in August 2002. As Sifton explained, “I first learned about the Sayari case in 2005, reading through a Department of Defense document obtained via a Freedom of Information Act case by the American Civil Liberties Union. The document contained a short description of the incident: A captain and three sergeants ‘murdered Mr. [Sayari] after detaining him for following their movements in Afghanistan.’ The section of the document detailing the result of the investigation was redacted.”
Last year, in conjunction with various human rights groups, Sifton sought an explanation for Sayari’s death from the US military. “The Army,” he wrote, “revealed that commanders had declined to prosecute any of the four men implicated in the case, although one of the four soldiers received an ‘administrative reprimand.’” This was in spite of the fact that, in 2006, additional documents obtained by the ACLU had “disclosed that the Army investigation had found probable cause to recommend charges of murder and conspiracy against the four Special Forces soldiers. According the investigation, the four soldiers had captured the detainee, a civilian non-combatant, and shot him, presumably after interrogating him.” Sifton added that military investigators “also recommended dereliction-of-duty charges against three of the men and a charge of obstruction of justice against the highest-ranking, a captain, who admitted to destroying evidence of the crime, but that, “[i]nexplicably, without a court martial, the case was closed,” and all that happened was that the captain “received a letter of reprimand for ‘destroying evidence.’”
Conclusion
In conclusion, I can only hope that the stories above contribute to correcting what Glenn Greenwald described as “a critically important deficiency in the public debate over torture and accountability” — and bear in mind that I was dealing only with ten murders in Afghanistan, and not the 90-plus murders in US custody in Iraq. If we are indeed to “Look to the Future, not the Past,” and to “regain America’s moral stature in the world,” as President Obama hopes, this can only be achieved by addressing the crimes of the past, moving beyond the “few bad apples” scenario used by the Bush administration to deflect attention from its own culpability, and demanding accountability from the senior officials responsible for turning America into a nation that openly practiced torture.
As retired Gen. Barry McCaffrey explained to MSNBC in April, on the day that President Obama visited CIA headquarters in April to praise the agency for upholding US values and ideals, “We should never, as a policy, maltreat people under our control, detainees. We tortured people unmercifully. We probably murdered dozens of them during the course of that, both the armed forces and the CIA.”
Explaining its call for accountability, the ACLU declares on its “Accountability for Torture” homepage, “We will press Congress to appoint a select committee that can investigate the roots of the torture program and recommend legislative changes to ensure that the abuses of the last eight years are not repeated. And we will advocate for the appointment of an independent prosecutor to examine issues of criminal responsibility. We can’t sweep the abuses of the last eight years under the rug. Accountability for torture is a legal, political, and moral imperative.”
It is indeed. And without it, the message that President Obama sends to the world is not that he has “regain[ed] America’s moral stature in the world,” but that senior officials can torture with impunity, so long as they leave office after committing their crimes.
Andy Worthington is the author of The Guantánamo Files: The Stories of the 774 Detainees in America’s Illegal Prison (published by Pluto Press, distributed by Macmillan in the US, and available from Amazon — click on the following for the US and the UK). To receive new articles in your inbox, please subscribe to my RSS feed, and see here for my definitive Guantánamo prisoner list, published in March 2009.
For a sequence of articles dealing with the use of torture by the CIA, on “high-value detainees,” and in the secret prisons, see: Guantánamo’s tangled web: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Majid Khan, dubious US convictions, and a dying man (July 2007), Jane Mayer on the CIA’s “black sites,” condemnation by the Red Cross, and Guantánamo’s “high-value” detainees (including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed) (August 2007), Waterboarding: two questions for Michael Hayden about three “high-value” detainees now in Guantánamo (February 2008), Six in Guantánamo Charged with 9/11 Murders: Why Now? And What About the Torture? (February 2008), The Insignificance and Insanity of Abu Zubaydah: Ex-Guantánamo Prisoner Confirms FBI’s Doubts (April 2008), Guantánamo Trials: Another Torture Victim Charged (Abdul Rahim al-Nashiri, July 2008), Secret Prison on Diego Garcia Confirmed: Six “High-Value” Guantánamo Prisoners Held, Plus “Ghost Prisoner” Mustafa Setmariam Nasar (August 2008), Will the Bush administration be held accountable for war crimes? (December 2008), The Ten Lies of Dick Cheney (Part One) and The Ten Lies of Dick Cheney (Part Two) (December 2008), Prosecuting the Bush Administration’s Torturers (March 2009), Abu Zubaydah: The Futility Of Torture and A Trail of Broken Lives (March 2009), Ten Terrible Truths About The CIA Torture Memos (Part One), Ten Terrible Truths About The CIA Torture Memos (Part Two), 9/11 Commission Director Philip Zelikow Condemns Bush Torture Program, Who Authorized The Torture of Abu Zubaydah?, CIA Torture Began In Afghanistan 8 Months before DoJ Approval, Even In Cheney’s Bleak World, The Al-Qaeda-Iraq Torture Story Is A New Low (all April 2009), Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi Has Died In A Libyan Prison , Dick Cheney And The Death Of Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, The “Suicide” Of Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi: Why The Media Silence?, Two Experts Cast Doubt On Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi’s “Suicide”, Lawrence Wilkerson Nails Cheney On Use Of Torture To Invade Iraq, In the Guardian: Death in Libya, betrayal by the West (in the Guardian here), Lawrence Wilkerson Nails Cheney’s Iraq Lies Again (And Rumsfeld And The CIA) (all May 2009) and WORLD EXCLUSIVE: New Revelations About The Torture Of Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi (June 2009). Also see the extensive archive of articles about the Military Commissions.
For other stories discussing the use of torture in secret prisons, see: An unreported story from Guantánamo: the tale of Sanad al-Kazimi (August 2007), Rendered to Egypt for torture, Mohammed Saad Iqbal Madni is released from Guantánamo (September 2008), A History of Music Torture in the “War on Terror” (December 2008), Seven Years of Torture: Binyam Mohamed Tells His Story (March 2009), and also see the extensive Binyam Mohamed archive. And for other stories discussing torture at Guantánamo and/or in “conventional” US prisons in Afghanistan, see: The testimony of Guantánamo detainee Omar Deghayes: includes allegations of previously unreported murders in the US prison at Bagram airbase (August 2007), Guantánamo Transcripts: “Ghost” Prisoners Speak After Five And A Half Years, And “9/11 hijacker” Recants His Tortured Confession (September 2007), The Trials of Omar Khadr, Guantánamo’s “child soldier” (November 2007), Former US interrogator Damien Corsetti recalls the torture of prisoners in Bagram and Abu Ghraib (December 2007), Guantánamo’s shambolic trials (February 2008), Torture allegations dog Guantánamo trials (March 2008), Sami al-Haj: the banned torture pictures of a journalist in Guantánamo (April 2008), Former Guantánamo Prosecutor Condemns “Chaotic” Trials in Case of Teenage Torture Victim (Lt. Col. Darrel Vandeveld on Mohamed Jawad, January 2009), Judge Orders Release of Guantánamo’s Forgotten Child (Mohammed El-Gharani, January 2009), Bush Era Ends With Guantánamo Trial Chief’s Torture Confession (Susan Crawford on Mohammed al-Qahtani, January 2009), Forgotten in Guantánamo: British Resident Shaker Aamer (March 2009), A Child At Guantánamo: The Unending Torment of Mohamed Jawad (June 2009) and the extensive archive of articles about the Military Commissions.
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52 Responses
perris says...
“When Torture Kills: Ten Murders In US Prisons In Afghanistan”
policies of torture ALWAYS kills, it’s not a question of “when” it’s a question of who and how
I really wish progressives would start talking about the damage to our national security these programs created
progressives need to attack the programs as having created more terrorists and more activity against our country
then they need to attack these policies as the reasons Iraqi’s hated our presence and attacked our soldiers
this is so much more then “right against wrong”, it’s also “it creates terrorists and terrorism for us and our children, for generations
there are far more effective methods for regaining public outrage against these policies
cheney went on his torture tour and corporate media allows these “pundits” to spin these programs as being productive
we MUST change that missive and we MUST attack these sociopaths for the harm they have done to us on the theatre of national security
...on July 1st, 2009 at 10:06 pm
the talking dog says...
Perris’s comment leads to an extremely interesting point, both about amazing new information (as Andy sets out here) on top of well-established information long out there (again, much of it put out there by Andy’s own painstaking journalism)… about the way the human mind works… I’m speaking in political terms, now.
Most people will immediately fit this information in existing frames that already decide how they see the rest of the world; actual facts matter far less than preconceptions… I’m no less susceptible to this than anyone else… maybe Zen masters are immune to this to some degree (living in the moment and all), but that’s about it.
For the Dick Cheneys of the world and many if not most listeners of right wing radio (and other ill-developed dolts) they will simply read these developments and say something like “these damned terrorists had it coming; what’re we supposed to do if we get our hands on OBL… read ’em his rights?”
Those of us schooled in law (and the rule of law) would say, “Yes, that is precisely what we should do with OBL if we got our hands on him. Our frame of reference is to look at these egregious crimes by people acting in our name and recognize them as… egregious crimes. We understand that in the heat of battle (or tense situations where doors get kicked in) non-combatants and other innocents might be hurt or killed as one of the innumerable risks of warfare… but once prisoners are taken, they are to be treated humanely and lawfully– and there are no exceptions to that. The fact that we would give OBL all due process rights available and then a fair trial is not for his benefit: it’s for ours– to ensure that the supposed principles that those who caught him stand for actually mean something, and to ensure his many victims that their deaths did not result in some politically-sanctioned vigilantism, but actual justice, consistent with our highest principles rather than our basest instincts.
And frankly, multiplying the numbers of victims of torture or even murder (even geometrically or exponentially) or proving the absolute irrelevance and complete innocence of the victims of egregious crimes at the hands of U.S. military and intel services… will not change most people’s minds, as they are locked into one world-view or the other. And btw, simply arguing that the torture and homicide and acting as al Qaeda’s recruiting sergeant and all undermine our national security… will suffer from the same problem: most people will simply fit this into their existing preconceived mental frameworks (“No, torture makes us safer… haven’t you seen how Jack Bauer gets results?”… that one, alarmingly, from U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, btw.)
The process of “winning hearts and minds” on these issues is, alas, slow and tedious, in part as those of us like Andy, our friend Candace Gorman, the people at cageprisoners.com, freedetainees.org, and others (tot some extent, including myself) try to slowly get information out there and just hope that enough people who can still think clearly… do so… and try to influence the people who actually matter, such as those in power right now, chief of whom is my college classmate B.H. Obama who promised dramatic reform in all of these areas, but who insists that these kinds of crime are beyond even investigation let alone prosecution.
Frames take a lot of time and effort to develop, and while it’s certainly appropriate to point out that these tortures and homicides were actually counterproductive, (1) that’s not really going to persuade a lot of people inclined not to care about this as long as their SUV is gassed up and their favorite show is on, and (2) does it really matter to intrinsically immoral and horrifying acts (which are, of course, felonies, and in this context of homicide while violating the Geneva Conventions, death penalty offenses under American law).. if torture and brutality “work”… I mean, so what? If we lined up 100 random civilians and executed them and thereby got the next 100 to cooperate with valuable intelligence… does that justify it? I would say unequivocally “of course not”… I agree that the tagline of “these immoral and illegal acts don’t even work” is a useful one, to be sure, but not the sole issue here.
What matters, as Andy has painstakingly documented, is just how horrifying these acts really are. And how horrifyingly extensive, apparently.
...on July 1st, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Kathleen says...
When one reads about the torture that was inflicted upon prisoners by reservists and “new’ recruits it is not difficult to understand why so many folks hate Americans. This is tough to read but every American should. Some sick sick people involved in these crimes
...on July 1st, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Andy Worthington: Release Of The “Holy Grail” Of Torture Reports Delayed Again » A Couple Things » A couple things about politics, sports, travel, and other stuff. says...
[…] at Firedoglake, by Digby, and by drational and mcjoan at Daily Kos, and there’s also my article, “When Torture Kills: Ten Murders In US Prisons In Afghanistan,” which draws largely on passages in my book The Guantánamo Files, but also on testimony by former […]
...on July 2nd, 2009 at 12:36 am
When Torture Kills: Ten Murders In US Prisons In Afghanistan… « Back Towards The Locus says...
[…] When Torture Kills: Ten Murders In US Prisons In Afghanistan… July 2, 2009 Posted by bensix in Uncategorized. trackback Right, team — er, readers. There’s a fine, important post by Andy Worthington over here. […]
...on July 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 am
By Yoo’s Own Analysis, Army Field Manual Allows Torture with Drugs | nFiniteEcho.com says...
[…] When Torture Kills: Ten Murders In US Prisons In Afghanistan, by Andy Worthington The prelude to two notorious murders — and, very possibly, three others — in the US prison at Bagram airbase began in the summer of 2002, when 14 soldiers from the 525th Military Intelligence Brigade at Fort Bragg arrived at the prison, led by Lt. Carolyn Wood, and were soon joined by six Arabic-speaking reservists from the Utah National Guard. Lt. Wood took over interrogations from a team led by an interrogator who later wrote a book about his experiences, The Interrogators, using the pseudonym Chris Mackey. This is how I described what happened next in The Guantánamo Files…. No tags for this post. […]
...on July 2nd, 2009 at 3:56 am
When Torture Kills: Ten Murders In US Prisons In Afghanistan by Andy Worthington « Dandelion Salad says...
[…] by Andy Worthington Featured Writer Dandelion Salad http://www.andyworthington.co.uk 1 July 2009 […]
...on July 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 am
Release Of The “Holy Grail” Of Torture Reports Delayed Again by Andy Worthington « Dandelion Salad says...
[…] Firedoglake, by Digby, and by drational and mcjoan at Daily Kos, and there’s also my article, “When Torture Kills: Ten Murders In US Prisons In Afghanistan,” which draws largely on passages in my book The Guantánamo Files, but also on testimony by […]
...on July 2nd, 2009 at 10:02 am
» After Torture Support, NPR Dodges Ernesto Aguilar says...
[…] feeding of hunger strikers. Writer Andy Worthington, who wote the ACLU piece, goes into much more detail on the violence employed against terrorism […]
...on July 2nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Torture News Roundup: Farewell (for awhile) (updated) | nFiniteEcho.com says...
[…] When Torture Kills: Ten Murders In US Prisons In Afghanistan (Andy Worthington) How long it would have taken the US military to investigate the murders, if left to their own devices, is unknown. Instead, they issued a press release, announcing that a prisoner had died of a heart attack, and then refused to release any further information. Investigating further, the journalist Carlotta Gall (in another impressive story for the New York Times in March 2003) traced Dilawar’s family and was shown his death certificate, on which an army pathologist stated unequivocally that, although he had coronary artery disease, his heart failed because of “blunt force injuries to the lower extremities.” The extent of his injuries was later summed up by two coroners: one said that his legs had “basically been pulpified,” and the other said, “I’ve seen similar injuries in an individual run over by a bus.” […]
...on July 8th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Bagram Isn’t The New Guantánamo, It’s The Old Guantánamo « freedetainees.org says...
[…] seven years. The prison was particularly notorious in its early days — especially in 2002, when at least two prisoners died at the hands of US forces — but according to a survey conducted by the BBC in June this year, […]
...on August 16th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Bagram Isn’t The New Guantánamo, It’s The Old Guantánamo by Andy Worthington « Dandelion Salad says...
[…] seven years. The prison was particularly notorious in its early days — especially in 2002, when at least two prisoners died at the hands of US forces — but according to a survey conducted by the BBC in June this year, […]
...on August 18th, 2009 at 3:11 am
Emptywheel » Tortured To Death says...
[…] coordinated push with the ACLU Accountability Project, I would like to draw attention to an article Andy Worthington has out […]
...on October 10th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
A Letter From Afghanistan: Bagram, Afghan suffering and the futility of war « Dandelion Salad says...
[…] had been any abuse there, I might agree that there probably is not any now either, but there is hard evidence that there was torture, even lethal, so now it is up to the torturers and their superiors to prove […]
...on October 12th, 2009 at 11:10 am
mark says...
I can think of no better thing for us to do to help terror all over the world, than to torture people. We have killed a million folks in iraq and it is going to take a long time for us to live down our reputation as invaders, tortures or what ever you would have us be called. I am disgusted when america does not act in accordance with the geneva convention, the us constitution etc. I hate the nazi’s from the second world war. The lifes styles they had, the shinny black boots etc.oh by the way did I mention the torturing they did? Kind of like us why would anyone hate us? Just because of our life style? not likely just because we torture people?
...on November 18th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Tortured To Death | No Bull. news service. says...
[…] coordinated push with the ACLU Accountability Project, I would like to draw attention to an article Andy Worthington has out […]
...on November 20th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Friday Links | Idiotprogrammer says...
[…] Worthington summarizes the number of prisoners brutally murdered when in US custody overseas. This mainly includes Gitmo, but also a few deaths in Iraq as well. I already knew about most of […]
...on January 23rd, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Torture Whitewash: How “Professional Misconduct” Became “Poor Judgment” in the OPR Report « freedetainees.org says...
[…] on Terror” (December 2008), Seven Years of Torture: Binyam Mohamed Tells His Story (March 2009), When Torture Kills: Ten Murders In US Prisons In Afghanistan (July 2009), US Torture Under Scrutiny In British Courts (July 2009), What The British Government […]
...on February 24th, 2010 at 1:56 am
Seven Years of War in Iraq: Still Based on Cheney’s Torture and Lies « Dandelion Salad says...
[…] in bombing raids, imprisoning others in vile conditions in prisons at Kandahar and Bagram (where some died), and sending others to […]
...on March 22nd, 2010 at 2:02 am
Seven Years of War in Iraq: Still Based on Cheney’s Torture and Lies « Dr Nasir Khan says...
[…] in bombing raids, imprisoning others in vile conditions in prisons at Kandahar and Bagram (where some died), and sending others to […]
...on March 23rd, 2010 at 11:11 am
Prosecuting a Tortured Child: Obama’s Guantánamo Legacy. By Andy Worthington « Kanan48 says...
[…] taken place in Bagram, where brutality was so commonplace at the time of Khadr’s stay there that at least two prisoners died of wounds inflicted by their guards just months after his departure. However, the abuse continued […]
...on May 9th, 2010 at 7:00 am
What is Obama Doing at Bagram? (Part One): Torture and the Black Prison « Dandelion Salad says...
[…] murderous regime that, in the last half of 2002, led to the deaths of at least two — and possibly as many as five — prisoners. Throughout this period, and after the transfer of regular prisoners to Guantánamo […]
...on June 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 pm
What is Obama Doing at Bagram? (Part One): Torture and the “Black Prison” « Black Cafe Network News says...
[…] murderous regime that, in the last half of 2002, led to the deaths of at least two — and possibly as many as five — prisoners. Throughout this period, and after the transfer of regular prisoners to Guantánamo […]
...on June 4th, 2010 at 3:24 am
What is Obama Doing at Bagram? (Part Two): Executive Detention, Rendition, Review Boards, Released Prisoners and Trials « Dandelion Salad says...
[…] to rebrand the main prison at Bagram, opening a new facility to replace the squalid Russian factory immortalized in the bleak stories of prisoners held there in the early years, releasing the first ever list of prisoners in January, […]
...on June 12th, 2010 at 8:47 am
arcticredriver says...
Andy quotes John Sifton that an inquiry “also recommended dereliction-of-duty charges against three of the men and a charge of obstruction of justice against the highest-ranking, a captain, who admitted to destroying evidence of the crime, but that, “[i]nexplicably, without a court martial, the case was closed.”
We saw this happen with Ilario Pantano, who emptied two magazines into two unarmed captives. We saw this happen with Captain Carolyn Wood, of Bagram and Abu Ghraib. In Wood’s case it was the inquiry of Generals Fay and Jones.
This is not “inexplicable”. It is, I believe, a predictable outcome given how the US military justice system works (doesn’t work). In Wood’s case Fay and Jones recommended she face about a dozen serious charges for her roles in the murders of Dilawar and Habibullah. In the US military justice system the decision as to whether or not to act on those recommendations lies with the suspect’s commanding officer. I believe the very troubling explanation for why she didn’t face charges was that the same chain of command that would have to act on the recommendations she be charged had already gone on record rewarding her for the same activities the charges would cover.
Wood’s commanding officers had promoted her from Lieutenant to Captain, awarded her two Bronze Stars, for the “initiative” she took in introducing new interrogation techniques. To subsequently agree she should face charges for those initiatives would require her commanding officers acknowledge serious wrongdoing on their own part.
...on July 29th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
WITH NEW IRAN SANCTIONS, POTUS CALLS TEHRAN’S KETTLE BLACK « Desertpeace says...
[…] charade and ongoing demonization campaign against Iran. Prisoners held by the United States in Afghanistan and Guantanamo, in addition to being “chained to the ceiling, shackled so tightly that the […]
...on October 1st, 2010 at 7:14 pm
International Flaw: With New Iran Sanctions, POTUS Calls Tehran’s Kettle Blackmedia-ocracy | media-ocracy says...
[…] charade and ongoing demonization campaign against Iran. Prisoners held by the United States in Afghanistan and Guantanamo, in addition to being “chained to the ceiling, shackled so tightly that the […]
...on October 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
INTERNATIONAL FLAW: With New Iran Sanctions, POTUS Calls Tehran’s Kettle Black | Dark Politricks says...
[…] charade and ongoing demonization campaign against Iran. Prisoners held by the United States in Afghanistan and Guantanamo, in addition to being “chained to the ceiling, shackled so tightly that the blood […]
...on October 2nd, 2010 at 3:30 pm
INTERNATIONAL FLAW: With New Iran Sanctions, POTUS Calls Tehran’s Kettle Black | Dark Politricks says...
[…] charade and ongoing demonization campaign against Iran. Prisoners held by the United States in Afghanistan and Guantanamo, in addition to being “chained to the ceiling, shackled so tightly that the blood […]
...on October 2nd, 2010 at 3:30 pm
| SHOAH says...
[…] charade and ongoing demonization campaign against Iran. Prisoners held by the United States in Afghanistan and Guantanamo, in addition to being “chained to the ceiling, shackled so tightly that the blood […]
...on October 2nd, 2010 at 6:57 pm
International Flaw: With New Iran Sanctions, POTUS Calls Tehran’s Kettle Black « Wide Asleep in America says...
[…] charade and ongoing demonization campaign against Iran. Prisoners held by the United States in Afghanistanand Guantanamo, in addition to being “chained to the ceiling, shackled so tightly that the […]
...on October 7th, 2010 at 12:19 am
WikiLeaks: Numerous Reasons to Dismiss US Claims that “Ghost Prisoner” Aafia Siddiqui Was Not Held in Bagram + Bring Aafia Home « Dandelion Salad says...
[…] — where around 1,200 prisoners were killed in a massacre in 1996 — or Bagram, because of its dark fame in the “War on Terror,” but to those in the know, it is, as Yvonne Ridley explained, known as […]
...on December 6th, 2010 at 2:07 am
The suppressed fact: Deaths by U.S. torture says...
[…] journalist Andy Worthington has a superb and richly detailed examination of numerous other detainee deaths, with an emphasis on the clear link between those deaths and the tactics approved by Bush […]
...on December 11th, 2010 at 9:49 am
The Holder trial balloon: Abu Ghraib redux says...
[…] abuses, many of the worst instances of detainee abuse cannot be extricated from — but rather are directly attributable to — the torture policies authorized at the highest levels of the government. To […]
...on December 11th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Is Neoconservatism Another Word for American Fascism? | Elia Isquire says...
[…] ipso facto they simply can’t be fascists. Well, call me shrill, but I think the families of these folks–among an unknown number of others–would […]
...on March 25th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Defiance in Isolation: The Last Stand Of Omar Khadr « Eurasia Review says...
[…] at the US prison in Bagram, Afghanistan “did not ring true,” even though, as we now know, at least two prisoners were killed by US soldiers just months after Khadr was transferred to […]
...on March 29th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
The “Dark Side” of Bagram: An Ex-Prisoner’s Account of Two Years of Abuse « Pakpotpourri2's Blog says...
[…] persistently as it was in Guantánamo on perceived troublemakers, and, worse than Guantánamo (but as Bagram was in its early days) the death of a prisoner that was, it seems, effortlessly covered up and not reported. The account […]
...on April 9th, 2011 at 3:11 am
Dhiislam English » The “Dark Side” of Bagram: An Ex-Prisoner’s Account of Two Years of Abuse says...
[…] persistently as it was in Guantánamo on perceived troublemakers, and, worse than Guantánamo (but as Bagram was in its early days) the death of a prisoner that was, it seems, effortlessly covered up and not reported. The account […]
...on April 11th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Prosecuting a Tortured Child: Obama’s Guantanamo Legacy | STATESMAN SENTINEL says...
[…] place in Bagram, where brutality was so commonplace at the time of Khadr’s stay there that at least two prisoners died of wounds inflicted by their guards just months after his departure. However, the abuse continued […]
...on April 18th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
WikiLeaks and the Guantánamo Prisoners Released from 2002 to 2004 (All Ten Parts) – Andy Worthington « freedetainees.org says...
[…] […]
...on August 27th, 2011 at 12:45 am
AMERICAN MORLOCKS: ANOTHER CIVILIAN MASSACRE AND THE SAVAGERY OF OUR SOLDIERS « Desertpeace says...
[…] where detainees wereraped by their American captors. Prisoners held by the United States in Afghanistan and Guantanamo, in addition to being “chained to the ceiling, shackled so tightly that the […]
...on March 13th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
American Morlocks: Another Civilian Massacre and the Savagery of Our Soldiers « pakpotpourri says...
[…] where detainees were raped by their American captors. Prisoners held by the United States in Afghanistan and Guantanamo, in addition to being “chained to the ceiling, shackled so tightly that the […]
...on March 15th, 2012 at 3:10 am
| American Morlocks: Another civilian massacre and the savagery of our soldiers! | | truthaholics says...
[…] where detainees were raped by their American captors. Prisoners held by the United States in Afghanistan and Guantanamo, in addition to being “chained to the ceiling, shackled so tightly that the […]
...on March 15th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Bleak news, but vital for us to understand: American Morlocks: Another Civilian Massacre and the Savagery of Our Soldiers « Fabius Maximus says...
[…] where detainees were raped by their American captors. Prisoners held by the United States in Afghanistan and Guantanamo, in addition to being “chained to the ceiling, shackled so tightly that the […]
...on March 17th, 2012 at 12:05 am
Unquantifiable « Caelum Et Terra says...
[…] are not torture, or that they really are not important compared to abortion. Never mind that people have died at the hands of American torturers, I want to tackle the abortion trump […]
...on May 24th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Bleak news, but vital for us to understand: American Morlocks: Another Civilian Massacre and the Savagery of Our Soldiers | Fabius Maximus says...
[…] where detainees were raped by their American captors. Prisoners held by the United States in Afghanistan and Guantanamo, in addition to being “chained to the ceiling, shackled so tightly that the […]
...on May 21st, 2014 at 1:41 pm
The Guantánamo Suicides says...
[…] revelations place our country at an important crossroads. There have certainly been a number of other deaths previously attributed to detainee abuse. However, the June 9, 2006 deaths are especially […]
...on March 15th, 2016 at 5:50 pm
Andy Worthington on The Peter B Collins Show – Dandelion Salad says...
[…] then moved on to talk about torture in the US prisons in Afghanistan and at Guantánamo, spurred by comments made by attorney Tom Wilner in the film, and Peter then […]
...on May 21st, 2021 at 12:49 am
Now That Afghan War Is Over, Close Gitmo—Now – Critical News Autoblog says...
[…] 220 Afghans at Gitmo along with nearly 600 other detainees. Many were transferred there from the notorious U.S. prison at Bagram airbase in […]
...on September 1st, 2021 at 9:30 pm
Close Guantánamo jail —Now - Maktoob media says...
[…] Gitmo along with nearly 600 other detainees. Many were transferred there from the notorious U.S. prison at Bagram airbase in […]
...on September 3rd, 2021 at 6:51 am
Now Close Gitmo, Too – Critical News Autoblog says...
[…] 220 Afghans at Gitmo along with nearly 600 other detainees. Many were transferred there from the notorious U.S. prison at Bagram airbase in […]
...on September 3rd, 2021 at 9:27 am
Now Close Gitmo, Too says...
[…] 220 Afghans at Gitmo along with nearly 600 other detainees. Many were transferred there from the notorious U.S. prison at Bagram airbase in […]
...on September 4th, 2021 at 4:02 am