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		<title>Comment on “Screwed up” and “abused”: Omar Khadr’s Canadian interrogations at Guantánamo by Andy Worthington</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2008/07/15/screwed-up-and-abused-omar-khadrs-canadian-interrogations-at-guantanamo/#comment-27924</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's so easy to miss the point, isn't it? Let me spell out the significance of Omar Khadr's age when he was captured (he was 15 years old):

Under the terms of the Optional Protocol to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, to which both the United States and Canada are signatories, juvenile prisoners – defined as those accused of a crime that took place when they were under 18 years of age – “require special protection.”

The Optional Protocol specifically recognizes “the special needs of those children who are particularly vulnerable to recruitment or use in hostilities”, and requires its signatories to promote “the physical and psychosocial rehabilitation and social reintegration of children who are victims of armed conflict.”

That's rehabilitation, not punishment. If Omar Khadr had been over 18 at the time of his capture we could be having different discussions, involving other difficult questions such as: did he actually throw the grenade that killed Sgt. Speer? And if he did, why was he not held as a Prisoner of War under the terms of the Geneva Conventions, and protected from cruel treatment and torture? 

He was not over 18, however. He was a child. 

Here's the Optional Protocol:
http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu2/6/protocolchild.htm 
Have a read, ask the government to opt out of it, and then get back to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so easy to miss the point, isn&#8217;t it? Let me spell out the significance of Omar Khadr&#8217;s age when he was captured (he was 15 years old):</p>
<p>Under the terms of the Optional Protocol to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, to which both the United States and Canada are signatories, juvenile prisoners – defined as those accused of a crime that took place when they were under 18 years of age – “require special protection.”</p>
<p>The Optional Protocol specifically recognizes “the special needs of those children who are particularly vulnerable to recruitment or use in hostilities”, and requires its signatories to promote “the physical and psychosocial rehabilitation and social reintegration of children who are victims of armed conflict.”</p>
<p>That&#8217;s rehabilitation, not punishment. If Omar Khadr had been over 18 at the time of his capture we could be having different discussions, involving other difficult questions such as: did he actually throw the grenade that killed Sgt. Speer? And if he did, why was he not held as a Prisoner of War under the terms of the Geneva Conventions, and protected from cruel treatment and torture? </p>
<p>He was not over 18, however. He was a child. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the Optional Protocol:<br />
<a href="http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu2/6/protocolchild.htm" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.unhchr.ch/html/menu2/6/protocolchild.htm?referer=');">http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu2/6/protocolchild.htm</a><br />
Have a read, ask the government to opt out of it, and then get back to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Screwed up” and “abused”: Omar Khadr’s Canadian interrogations at Guantánamo by Muslims Against Sharia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muslims Against Sharia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Hypocrisy of the "Repatriate Omar Khadr to Canada" Movement&lt;/b&gt;

As soon as the Gitmo interrogation tape of Omar Khadr hit the Internet, the blogosphere was flooded with demands to repatriate him to Canada. This wave is reminiscent of a Soviet campaign to free Luis Corvalán from the "fascist regime" of Augusto Pinochet thirty five years ago. The scenario is strikingly similar. A "victim" held by "fascist regimes" this time run by Bush and Harper, and a public outcry for justice. Except for the fact that Luis Corvalán didn't kill anyone and didn't fight for a terrorist group that wants to impose Sharia.

The "repatriate Khadr" crowd describes him as "a child", "a kid", "a boy", and even "a torture victim", with no facts to substantiate the torture claims notwithstanding. They complain about Khadr being mistreated, again, without anything to back up their claims. Some of them are outraged about "child abuse." And they all scream for justice.

They want justice? OK, let's talk about JUSTICE. What about justice for Sgt. First Class Christopher J. Speer, who was (according to an eyewitness) murdered by this "child"? What about justice for Tabitha Speer, who is a widow because of this "kid"? What about justice for Taryn and Tanner Speer, who are left without a father by this "a boy"? And what about all those Afghani civilians and NATO troops who are a little bit safer because this "torture victim" is behind bars? How many of these "repatriate Khadr" hypocrites concern themselves with justice for real victims? In literally hundreds of posts, we couldn't find a single one.

One would ask, what is the reason for this idiocy? The answer is simple. Ignorance. Complete and utter ignorance. Let's forget for a second that Omar Khadr killed Christopher Speer. Let's forget that Khadr's father was an al Qaeda financier. Let's forget that Khadr's family is known for it being al Qaeda sympathizers. Let's just remember what this "child" was fighting for in Afghanistan.

&lt;b&gt;This is what Taliban-imposed Sharia looks like in real life:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2000/07/hypocrisy-of-repatriate-omar-khadr-to.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2000/07/hypocrisy-of-repatriate-omar-khadr-to.html&lt;/a&gt;

Why don't all of you, bleeding heart demagogues go to Afghanistan and spend a day in a Taliban-controlled territory? And let's talk about Khadr when you get back. If you get back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Hypocrisy of the &#8220;Repatriate Omar Khadr to Canada&#8221; Movement</b></p>
<p>As soon as the Gitmo interrogation tape of Omar Khadr hit the Internet, the blogosphere was flooded with demands to repatriate him to Canada. This wave is reminiscent of a Soviet campaign to free Luis Corvalán from the &#8220;fascist regime&#8221; of Augusto Pinochet thirty five years ago. The scenario is strikingly similar. A &#8220;victim&#8221; held by &#8220;fascist regimes&#8221; this time run by Bush and Harper, and a public outcry for justice. Except for the fact that Luis Corvalán didn&#8217;t kill anyone and didn&#8217;t fight for a terrorist group that wants to impose Sharia.</p>
<p>The &#8220;repatriate Khadr&#8221; crowd describes him as &#8220;a child&#8221;, &#8220;a kid&#8221;, &#8220;a boy&#8221;, and even &#8220;a torture victim&#8221;, with no facts to substantiate the torture claims notwithstanding. They complain about Khadr being mistreated, again, without anything to back up their claims. Some of them are outraged about &#8220;child abuse.&#8221; And they all scream for justice.</p>
<p>They want justice? OK, let&#8217;s talk about JUSTICE. What about justice for Sgt. First Class Christopher J. Speer, who was (according to an eyewitness) murdered by this &#8220;child&#8221;? What about justice for Tabitha Speer, who is a widow because of this &#8220;kid&#8221;? What about justice for Taryn and Tanner Speer, who are left without a father by this &#8220;a boy&#8221;? And what about all those Afghani civilians and NATO troops who are a little bit safer because this &#8220;torture victim&#8221; is behind bars? How many of these &#8220;repatriate Khadr&#8221; hypocrites concern themselves with justice for real victims? In literally hundreds of posts, we couldn&#8217;t find a single one.</p>
<p>One would ask, what is the reason for this idiocy? The answer is simple. Ignorance. Complete and utter ignorance. Let&#8217;s forget for a second that Omar Khadr killed Christopher Speer. Let&#8217;s forget that Khadr&#8217;s father was an al Qaeda financier. Let&#8217;s forget that Khadr&#8217;s family is known for it being al Qaeda sympathizers. Let&#8217;s just remember what this &#8220;child&#8221; was fighting for in Afghanistan.</p>
<p><b>This is what Taliban-imposed Sharia looks like in real life:</b> <a href="http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2000/07/hypocrisy-of-repatriate-omar-khadr-to.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2000/07/hypocrisy-of-repatriate-omar-khadr-to.html?referer=');">http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2000/07/hypocrisy-of-repatriate-omar-khadr-to.html</a></p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t all of you, bleeding heart demagogues go to Afghanistan and spend a day in a Taliban-controlled territory? And let&#8217;s talk about Khadr when you get back. If you get back.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who are the Afghans just released from Guantánamo? by Andy Worthington</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2008/05/09/who-are-the-afghans-just-released-from-guantanamo/#comment-27921</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These insightful comments came from a correspondent in Kabul:

Dear Mr. Worthington,
 
By a long chain of unplanned internet travels, I ended up with one of your articles on Guantánamo (The Huffington Post), and certainly plan to read the others in due time.
 
Thank you for covering this shameful piece of internationally accepted, 'democratic', human rights abuse. 

I just hope that 'closing down' Guantánamo, will mean giving ALL its inmates a trial (I dare not use the word 'fair') in a reasonably decent court, and not sending them off to their home country, or any other one where human rights abuses and torture are common.
 
In order to pretend its hands are clean, the Bush administration (I would not risk implying that he himself has enough brains to devise any of this) increasingly sub-contracts torture to less PR-conscious countries.  Pontius Pilate would admire the scheme.

But block D in Pul-e Charkhi prison is no solution to a human rights crisis. On the contrary, to survive 6 years in Guantánamo without going stark mad, only to end up in block D, is possibly the most cruel torture of all.
 
Thank you again and kind regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These insightful comments came from a correspondent in Kabul:</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Worthington,</p>
<p>By a long chain of unplanned internet travels, I ended up with one of your articles on Guantánamo (The Huffington Post), and certainly plan to read the others in due time.</p>
<p>Thank you for covering this shameful piece of internationally accepted, &#8216;democratic&#8217;, human rights abuse. </p>
<p>I just hope that &#8216;closing down&#8217; Guantánamo, will mean giving ALL its inmates a trial (I dare not use the word &#8216;fair&#8217;) in a reasonably decent court, and not sending them off to their home country, or any other one where human rights abuses and torture are common.</p>
<p>In order to pretend its hands are clean, the Bush administration (I would not risk implying that he himself has enough brains to devise any of this) increasingly sub-contracts torture to less PR-conscious countries.  Pontius Pilate would admire the scheme.</p>
<p>But block D in Pul-e Charkhi prison is no solution to a human rights crisis. On the contrary, to survive 6 years in Guantánamo without going stark mad, only to end up in block D, is possibly the most cruel torture of all.</p>
<p>Thank you again and kind regards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What’s Happening with the Guantánamo cases? by Frances Madeson</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2008/07/18/whats-happening-with-the-guantanamo-cases/#comment-27914</link>
		<dc:creator>Frances Madeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only should the US provide refuge and compensation as the cornerstone of a larger and meaningful amends process, there is a strong argument that the Guantanamo inmates should be offered full-blown US citizenship. Drawing on the principle of constituted identities, Rogers Smith, a political science professor at University of Pennsylvania has offered the thought experiment that "constitutional democracies should include all persons who are constituted by coercive policies of the regime, if those affected wish to become citizens." This offer of citizenship is especially appropriate as "reparation and redress of injustice." In my view, the US and its people can never evolve past the national shame of the Bush era without confronting the damage done to individual human beings head on. The We in We the People must come to understand and accept our share of collective culpability and embrace these men--throw open our homes, workplaces, communities, universities, arms and hearts--and positively re-constitute our own identities in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only should the US provide refuge and compensation as the cornerstone of a larger and meaningful amends process, there is a strong argument that the Guantanamo inmates should be offered full-blown US citizenship. Drawing on the principle of constituted identities, Rogers Smith, a political science professor at University of Pennsylvania has offered the thought experiment that &#8220;constitutional democracies should include all persons who are constituted by coercive policies of the regime, if those affected wish to become citizens.&#8221; This offer of citizenship is especially appropriate as &#8220;reparation and redress of injustice.&#8221; In my view, the US and its people can never evolve past the national shame of the Bush era without confronting the damage done to individual human beings head on. The We in We the People must come to understand and accept our share of collective culpability and embrace these men&#8211;throw open our homes, workplaces, communities, universities, arms and hearts&#8211;and positively re-constitute our own identities in the process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Screwed up” and “abused”: Omar Khadr’s Canadian interrogations at Guantánamo by Tulufsa Ohseio</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2008/07/15/screwed-up-and-abused-omar-khadrs-canadian-interrogations-at-guantanamo/#comment-27896</link>
		<dc:creator>Tulufsa Ohseio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for supporting the war vs. America.  To bring down the real enemy, the Great Satan, infiltrators in the West bringing them down from inside will be needed to spread pro jihadist propaganda like yours.  Keep up the "good" fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for supporting the war vs. America.  To bring down the real enemy, the Great Satan, infiltrators in the West bringing them down from inside will be needed to spread pro jihadist propaganda like yours.  Keep up the &#8220;good&#8221; fight.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The trials of Omar Khadr, Guantánamo’s “child soldier” by DhafirTrial &#187; Omar Khadr&#8217;s Canadian Interrogation at Guantánamo</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2007/11/14/the-trials-of-omar-khadr-guantanamos-child-soldier/#comment-27895</link>
		<dc:creator>DhafirTrial &#187; Omar Khadr&#8217;s Canadian Interrogation at Guantánamo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] footage (highlights available here in a 10-minute version) from interrogations of Canadian citizen Omar Khadr, who was just 15 years old when he was seized after a firefight with U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] footage (highlights available here in a 10-minute version) from interrogations of Canadian citizen Omar Khadr, who was just 15 years old when he was seized after a firefight with U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Omar Khadr: Canada’s Guantánamo torture warning shows double standards by thierry beguet</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2008/01/19/omar-khadr-canadas-guantanamo-torture-warning-shows-double-standards/#comment-27894</link>
		<dc:creator>thierry beguet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bonsoir  
Comme des millions de francais nous avons vu ces images monstrueuses sur un gamin de 16 ans detenu a Guantanamo citoyen canadien Omark Kadhr, torturé par des canadiens d'un vice insoupconné qui m'a rappelé les tortionnaires nazis. 
Petits fils de déporté pendant la seconde guerre, je peux vous dire que votre pays votre premier ministre M Harperpour tolerer, fermer les yeux accepter des choses pareilles ne connait pas le Mot droits de l'homme et n'a bien sur pas connu les atrocités des bourreaux tel quil soit pour humilier detruire un enfant 16 ans... 
Jaimais le Canada maintenant il me revulse... 
thierry Beguet 
Clermont Ferrand France 
christian bitard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bonsoir<br />
Comme des millions de francais nous avons vu ces images monstrueuses sur un gamin de 16 ans detenu a Guantanamo citoyen canadien Omark Kadhr, torturé par des canadiens d&#8217;un vice insoupconné qui m&#8217;a rappelé les tortionnaires nazis.<br />
Petits fils de déporté pendant la seconde guerre, je peux vous dire que votre pays votre premier ministre M Harperpour tolerer, fermer les yeux accepter des choses pareilles ne connait pas le Mot droits de l&#8217;homme et n&#8217;a bien sur pas connu les atrocités des bourreaux tel quil soit pour humilier detruire un enfant 16 ans&#8230;<br />
Jaimais le Canada maintenant il me revulse&#8230;<br />
thierry Beguet<br />
Clermont Ferrand France<br />
christian bitard</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Screwed up” and “abused”: Omar Khadr’s Canadian interrogations at Guantánamo by Robert Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so sick of reading comments from these bleeding hearts about these terrorists being abused. Last week while surfing the net, I came across the video of Nick Berg being beheaded by these people the bleeding hearts are concerned about. I spent 9 yrs in the army and 27 years as a police officer. I have seen many horrific things in my life and have lost a lot of sleep,over it. however nothing bothered me as much as that video. It should be shown to every soldier going to serve on those countrys. They will then know what they are fighting for. The media are responsible for a lot of the bleeding heart nonsence. They should have a look at that video and see one of their own being executed by these animals. See how well you sleep after watching it. You will find it by entering "beheadings by taliban and el quida in Afghanistan."  As Lawrence of Arabia once said "take no prisioners".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so sick of reading comments from these bleeding hearts about these terrorists being abused. Last week while surfing the net, I came across the video of Nick Berg being beheaded by these people the bleeding hearts are concerned about. I spent 9 yrs in the army and 27 years as a police officer. I have seen many horrific things in my life and have lost a lot of sleep,over it. however nothing bothered me as much as that video. It should be shown to every soldier going to serve on those countrys. They will then know what they are fighting for. The media are responsible for a lot of the bleeding heart nonsence. They should have a look at that video and see one of their own being executed by these animals. See how well you sleep after watching it. You will find it by entering &#8220;beheadings by taliban and el quida in Afghanistan.&#8221;  As Lawrence of Arabia once said &#8220;take no prisioners&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Screwed up” and “abused”: Omar Khadr’s Canadian interrogations at Guantánamo by mullah cimoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mullah cimoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ameriki him so the big hero and tough guy when to torture the child.  am proud mr. tuf ameriki?  how many usa soldier the sick brain and danger?

usa to suffering so much for cruel and the torture.  now for ameriki economic to punish and suffering and to fight aztec and maya for land.  him whitie man now finish and this the punish for it wicked ameriki to tortured it children.

also for punish now ameriki him daughtyer just full slut take LBT (low back tattoo) to sex with every man even it gang member.  but ameriki him no even the ashame.  and him son the gay homosexual and him wife lesbian never to love cook food for family.

not all it ameriki  so the wicked but even him to suffer equal with bad ameriki.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ameriki him so the big hero and tough guy when to torture the child.  am proud mr. tuf ameriki?  how many usa soldier the sick brain and danger?</p>
<p>usa to suffering so much for cruel and the torture.  now for ameriki economic to punish and suffering and to fight aztec and maya for land.  him whitie man now finish and this the punish for it wicked ameriki to tortured it children.</p>
<p>also for punish now ameriki him daughtyer just full slut take LBT (low back tattoo) to sex with every man even it gang member.  but ameriki him no even the ashame.  and him son the gay homosexual and him wife lesbian never to love cook food for family.</p>
<p>not all it ameriki  so the wicked but even him to suffer equal with bad ameriki.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Guantánamo Files: The Stories of the 774 Detainees in America’s Illegal Prison by “Screwed up” and “abused”: Omar Khadr’s Canadian interrogations at Guantánamo &#124; freedetainees.org</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/the-guantanamo-files/#comment-27887</link>
		<dc:creator>“Screwed up” and “abused”: Omar Khadr’s Canadian interrogations at Guantánamo &#124; freedetainees.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the background to Omar Khadr’s story, and his abuse in US detention, see Andy&#8217;s book The Guantánamo Files: The Stories of the 774 Detainees in America’s Illegal Prison (published by Pluto Press/the University of Michigan [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on the background to Omar Khadr’s story, and his abuse in US detention, see Andy&#8217;s book The Guantánamo Files: The Stories of the 774 Detainees in America’s Illegal Prison (published by Pluto Press/the University of Michigan [...]</p>
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