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	<title>Comments on: Cruel Britannia: Human Rights Watch Exposes British Complicity In Torture In Pakistan</title>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Will,
Good to hear from you, as ever. What leapt out at me most from your chilling analysis was the context of war, which made me reflect that Britain suffered a terrorist attack and that the British government has become embroiled in torture because Blair so enthusiastically embraced the Bush administration&#039;s wars.
Also, I don&#039;t think Dick Cheney&#039;s in the basement, but metaphorically the Democrats&#039; inability to make the right decisions -- or, perhaps, to stand up to the Pentagon and its allies -- is bringing about what Cheney wanted all along.
We need real leadership prepared to make tough decisions on both sides of the Atlantic, but it seems we&#039;re not going to get it, and one reason, of course, is that not enough people care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Will,<br />
Good to hear from you, as ever. What leapt out at me most from your chilling analysis was the context of war, which made me reflect that Britain suffered a terrorist attack and that the British government has become embroiled in torture because Blair so enthusiastically embraced the Bush administration&#8217;s wars.<br />
Also, I don&#8217;t think Dick Cheney&#8217;s in the basement, but metaphorically the Democrats&#8217; inability to make the right decisions &#8212; or, perhaps, to stand up to the Pentagon and its allies &#8212; is bringing about what Cheney wanted all along.<br />
We need real leadership prepared to make tough decisions on both sides of the Atlantic, but it seems we&#8217;re not going to get it, and one reason, of course, is that not enough people care.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Shirley</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/11/25/cruel-britannia-human-rights-watch-exposes-british-complicity-in-torture-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-51951</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, it just seems to me that we have a dichotomy in this country, and I should say that Britain is more or less part of this country too. Maybe that&#039;s part of the problem, maybe our boys want to reverse the Revolution and get us a jerkwater king and a band of nose picking nobility. Anybody look at Liberman lately? Now imagine him all poofed out in a ruff and velvet, sniffing snuff and sneezing on fat women. See how easily your mind wraps around that? It&#039;s because we live in such a world now. Our nobility simply don&#039;t have good taste in clothes. But we&#039;ve come so far... in fashion. In language we&#039;ve degenerated, in understanding and logic we&#039;ve gone back to the Neanderthal. Andy, if you have not read Mussolini lately, do yourself a favor and read his essay for the Italian Encyclopedia on &quot;Corporatism-Fascism&quot;. It&#039;s the biggest fascist writing on his beliefs and I swear they were plucked verbatim by the Republicans for their platform. This is where they stand: government by corporations, perpetual war, religion merged with government. All of this, the lies, the drum beating, all of this is designed to bring the Great Dictator back to life as an American king. I&#039;m worried, genuine worry this time. The citizens of this country are so freaking ignorant of anything that does not come for PS3 it would be easy to get them to wear brown shirts. Watch the video games and see if Wii comes out with a witch burning game or Muslim killing, raping, burning game. They will try to train our kids for the next generation of openly Fascist world government. Knowing kids as I do I give it a 50-50 shot at working, but only for a few drop outs. Kids are smarter than that. It&#039;s their parents who worry me. Ya know what makes me feel better? When I see that Europe is handling most of their problems without sending in the army. Some people seem to have entered the 21st century without looking back. Americans constantly look back to &quot;better days&quot;, but their ideas of better involve blacks as slaves, women without the vote, children seen and not heard and mint juleps at lunch. It can&#039;t work, even with all the idiots here. It can&#039;t work because it DOES NOT WORK. That&#039;s why history is important. All fading empires go fascist and then they fall apart. Then they try representative government and that works until the voters get lazy. Americans are famously lazy, always working on machines to do the work, even to the point of having robots build robots. I&#039;m just worried we have &quot;selected&quot; a member of the old boys club, Obama in a white coat strolling thru the WH with a pitcher of mint juleps for the REAL president in the basement: Dick Cheney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, it just seems to me that we have a dichotomy in this country, and I should say that Britain is more or less part of this country too. Maybe that&#8217;s part of the problem, maybe our boys want to reverse the Revolution and get us a jerkwater king and a band of nose picking nobility. Anybody look at Liberman lately? Now imagine him all poofed out in a ruff and velvet, sniffing snuff and sneezing on fat women. See how easily your mind wraps around that? It&#8217;s because we live in such a world now. Our nobility simply don&#8217;t have good taste in clothes. But we&#8217;ve come so far&#8230; in fashion. In language we&#8217;ve degenerated, in understanding and logic we&#8217;ve gone back to the Neanderthal. Andy, if you have not read Mussolini lately, do yourself a favor and read his essay for the Italian Encyclopedia on &#8220;Corporatism-Fascism&#8221;. It&#8217;s the biggest fascist writing on his beliefs and I swear they were plucked verbatim by the Republicans for their platform. This is where they stand: government by corporations, perpetual war, religion merged with government. All of this, the lies, the drum beating, all of this is designed to bring the Great Dictator back to life as an American king. I&#8217;m worried, genuine worry this time. The citizens of this country are so freaking ignorant of anything that does not come for PS3 it would be easy to get them to wear brown shirts. Watch the video games and see if Wii comes out with a witch burning game or Muslim killing, raping, burning game. They will try to train our kids for the next generation of openly Fascist world government. Knowing kids as I do I give it a 50-50 shot at working, but only for a few drop outs. Kids are smarter than that. It&#8217;s their parents who worry me. Ya know what makes me feel better? When I see that Europe is handling most of their problems without sending in the army. Some people seem to have entered the 21st century without looking back. Americans constantly look back to &#8220;better days&#8221;, but their ideas of better involve blacks as slaves, women without the vote, children seen and not heard and mint juleps at lunch. It can&#8217;t work, even with all the idiots here. It can&#8217;t work because it DOES NOT WORK. That&#8217;s why history is important. All fading empires go fascist and then they fall apart. Then they try representative government and that works until the voters get lazy. Americans are famously lazy, always working on machines to do the work, even to the point of having robots build robots. I&#8217;m just worried we have &#8220;selected&#8221; a member of the old boys club, Obama in a white coat strolling thru the WH with a pitcher of mint juleps for the REAL president in the basement: Dick Cheney.</p>
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