Comments on: Calling Time On Bush and Cheney’s Crimes: The New York Times’ Perfect Editorial

By: Gary C

Gary C — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:59:56 +0000

This is no surprise to me and these two Bush and Cheney have to answer to their crimes. Nobody is above the law.

By: the talking dog

the talking dog — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:37:41 +0000

Andy:

I really hate to play this out (!), but given the juvenile sensibilities of Cheney, Yoo, Addington and minions (and the utter pathetic inability of Bush to even try to rein them in, as if he even wanted to!)… we should realize that they thought of the “enhanced interrogation” program largely based on 24 [a t.v. show which conveniently went on the air around... 2002]… so who’s to say they didn’t design “the super-secret-policy-we-can’t talk-about… around, say… Kill Bill, a film which came out in 2003/2004…

I mean, let’s get right to it: why bother with “assassination squads” when, right now, our military is killing several dozen innocent brown-skinned by-standers for each “terrorist” via unmanned drones blowing up from high over Pakistani airspace… and we’ve killed hundreds and hundreds already. We won’t even talk about Afghan weddings we’ve massacred.

I mean, who really needs “assassination squads” when you’re already doing this sort of thing?

Ah, but the “license to kill” being valid in North America, where White people may be in the cross-fire… just priceless. One can see Cheney perhaps thinking about going a little farther than merely wishing people like the irksome Sen. Leahy a hearty “go f*** yourself”…

Is the question whether one is paranoid… or whether one is paranoid enough?

By: Andy Worthington

Andy Worthington — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:07:41 +0000

Hi TD,
You know, that just sounds plausible, doesn’t it? The assassination squad that can operate anywhere! Much more convenient than establishing secret prisons for people presumed to be terrorists so that they can be tortured to reveal that they are terrorists, without anyone bothering to think what was going to happen to them at the end of it all!

By: the talking dog

the talking dog — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:10:50 +0000

Better late than never, I suppose; the Times has never, to my mind, justified the timing of its own release of the original warrantless domestic-spying-on-innocent-Americans’-communications story, but I’m glad to see it coming ’round to the conclusion that this might have just been a wee bit of a… mistake. That maybe, the public should at least have known wtf its own government was up to, just as a “full consumer disclosure” matter… probably wouldn’t have effected the ’04 election results… but you never know.

The thing is, no matter how many internal reports come out, the President is committed to holding his newfound “class” of high political officials above the law, perhaps (rightly) fearing that the next time a Republican is elected, payback dictates turning the law on Obama for such high crimes as proposing expansion of health insurance coverate or raising taxes… both far more serious crimes than torture, mass murder, or some technical FISA violation…

Of course, we’re still missing whatever program was so… troubling… that even true-believer John Ashcroft rose from his hospital bed to say “NYET”. The allegations it was the warrantless spying program or even some sort of “assassination program against terrorists” just seems… insufficient. Unless, of course, that’s exactly what it was, only with a mandate to operate within the United States and Western allied territory. And if “innocent bystanders” or, “the wrong people” are “accidentally” picked off in the name of “keeping us safe”… well, it’s to fight terrorism, you know… only, of course, the fact that it might “accidentally” be used for political (or business) rivals, and of course, if unleashed, eventually blow back on the people who launched it… well…

Just saying…