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		<title>By: Uighur prisoner asks what is the difference between the US constitution and the Communist constitution? by Andy Worthington &#171; Dandelion Salad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uighur prisoner asks what is the difference between the US constitution and the Communist constitution? by Andy Worthington &#171; Dandelion Salad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] homeland. I think this is because the Chinese government does not want the outside world to know what happened in our homeland so they can strike harder against our people. Now, this has become our main [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hankiz,
Thank you for getting in touch.
I found two sentences in your comment particularly disturbing: firstly, &quot;The phone lines are still down and we have not spoken to any of our family members,&quot; and secondly, &quot;I have been asked to clean out my face book account on everything I posted about Uighurs by a family member because we didn’t want our family and friends in Urumqi be associated with us and be arrested.&quot;
I am standing by to report further on the situation if any news makes it out of Urumqi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hankiz,<br />
Thank you for getting in touch.<br />
I found two sentences in your comment particularly disturbing: firstly, &#8220;The phone lines are still down and we have not spoken to any of our family members,&#8221; and secondly, &#8220;I have been asked to clean out my face book account on everything I posted about Uighurs by a family member because we didn’t want our family and friends in Urumqi be associated with us and be arrested.&#8221;<br />
I am standing by to report further on the situation if any news makes it out of Urumqi.</p>
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		<title>By: hankiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>hankiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy,
Thank you for the report. I am Uighur and was born and raised in Urumqi. I can not believe those streets where Uighurs are shot to death are the streets that I used to walk to school and buy ice-creams. The phone lines are still down and we have not spoken to any of our family members. This has been a devastating experience.  I have been asked to clean out my face book account on everything I posted about Uighurs by a family member because we didn’t want our family and friends in Urumqi be associated with us and be arrested. It is amazing that as a US citizen and thousands of miles away from China I am still controlled by them and can not speak freely because I am worried about the lives of the people in Urumqi.
Thank you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy,<br />
Thank you for the report. I am Uighur and was born and raised in Urumqi. I can not believe those streets where Uighurs are shot to death are the streets that I used to walk to school and buy ice-creams. The phone lines are still down and we have not spoken to any of our family members. This has been a devastating experience.  I have been asked to clean out my face book account on everything I posted about Uighurs by a family member because we didn’t want our family and friends in Urumqi be associated with us and be arrested. It is amazing that as a US citizen and thousands of miles away from China I am still controlled by them and can not speak freely because I am worried about the lives of the people in Urumqi.<br />
Thank you again.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
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		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;During the 1990s, Mr. Bequelin of Human Rights Watch said, about two million Han relocated to Xinjiang.&quot;
Typical MO. Done to Tibetans, Mongolians and Xinjiang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;During the 1990s, Mr. Bequelin of Human Rights Watch said, about two million Han relocated to Xinjiang.&#8221;<br />
Typical MO. Done to Tibetans, Mongolians and Xinjiang.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
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		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scary stuff. On one hand, Mainland China is supposedly giving  money to ethnicities to go back to the &quot;ancestral lands&quot; and live the &quot;traditional life,&quot; because they are afraid cultures are dissappearing. But what about the people of Xinjiang? Oh, but wait! There&#039;s oil there.
Amazing how Bush just popped ETIM onto the Al-qaeda list.  I heard stalin liked to put random names on pieces of paper too.
I can&#039;t figure this writer out. This sounds like stenography to me: &quot;But Mr. Wang is fully able to knock out the evildoers.&quot; Then there is the next sentence: &quot;He did so in 1997, quelling riots in Yining, near the Kazakhstan border, *at a cost in lives that remains unknown.&quot;* Cost unknown, exactly, at least to western journalists. 
Maybe the writer traded access for truth, but he seems a little passive aggressive about it. I could be wrong.
And In terms of humanity this is all wrong. How convenient to make people forget that the  Eastern Turks helped create the Tang dynasty.The coverage seems all slanted toward making E. Turks look like faceless, worthless peoples, &quot;nothing to see here, move on.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scary stuff. On one hand, Mainland China is supposedly giving  money to ethnicities to go back to the &#8220;ancestral lands&#8221; and live the &#8220;traditional life,&#8221; because they are afraid cultures are dissappearing. But what about the people of Xinjiang? Oh, but wait! There&#8217;s oil there.<br />
Amazing how Bush just popped ETIM onto the Al-qaeda list.  I heard stalin liked to put random names on pieces of paper too.<br />
I can&#8217;t figure this writer out. This sounds like stenography to me: &#8220;But Mr. Wang is fully able to knock out the evildoers.&#8221; Then there is the next sentence: &#8220;He did so in 1997, quelling riots in Yining, near the Kazakhstan border, *at a cost in lives that remains unknown.&#8221;* Cost unknown, exactly, at least to western journalists.<br />
Maybe the writer traded access for truth, but he seems a little passive aggressive about it. I could be wrong.<br />
And In terms of humanity this is all wrong. How convenient to make people forget that the  Eastern Turks helped create the Tang dynasty.The coverage seems all slanted toward making E. Turks look like faceless, worthless peoples, &#8220;nothing to see here, move on.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi mui,
Good to have you back, and thanks for the link. That&#039;s certainly one weird story, and appears to be close to a fascist paean, as you say. 

I found these other passages interesting too:

&quot;His familiarity with the oil industry may have played a role in his transfer to Xinjiang, an oil-rich region. But he made his mark there by combining relentless economic development with punishing social policies to remake Turkic Xinjiang in Han China’s image.

&quot;Mr. Wang arrived in Xinjiang as the Soviet Union was dissolving, its central Asian pieces shedding their colonial chains. Millions of Han citizens transplanted by Mao after China’s army occupied the region in 1949 were leaving. Beijing feared that Xinjiang’s growing Muslim Uighur population would try to follow its Soviet neighbors into independence.

&quot;Mr. Wang’s antidote was a heavy dose of modernization for the ancient Uighur culture. He opened the region’s oil and gas fields to drilling, laid pipelines east to the Chinese heartland and west to Kazakhstan, and turned the Production and Construction Corps, a creaky make-work project for mustered-out Han soldiers, into a moneymaker listed on the Shanghai stock exchange.

&quot;Han workers began flowing back, lured by industry and government jobs that Uighurs say were disproportionately parceled out to Han migrants. During the 1990s, Mr. Bequelin of Human Rights Watch said, about two million Han relocated to Xinjiang.

&quot;At the same time, Mr. Wang tightly constrained Uighur culture and religion. He substituted Mandarin for Uighur in primary schools, saying minority languages were &#039;out of step with the 21st century,&#039; and banned or restricted Islamic practices among government workers, including the wearing of beards and head scarves and rituals like fasting and praying while on the job.

&quot;Yet Mr. Wang’s efforts intensified after the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States. Within months, he began a campaign against terrorism and separatism that he linked to the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a little-known Uighur group. The Bush administration agreed, adding the group to its list of allies of Al Qaeda in 2002.&quot;

Not a dose of criticism there at all, despite the blatant efforts to wipe out the Uighurs&#039; language and severely restrict their religion. Wow! And as for the Bush connection, it&#039;s widely believed, amongst those who have studied the Guantanamo Uighurs&#039; cases, that designating the ETIM as a terrorist organization was designed to ensure Chinese support -- or, at least, a lack of opposition -- in the UN in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi mui,<br />
Good to have you back, and thanks for the link. That&#8217;s certainly one weird story, and appears to be close to a fascist paean, as you say. </p>
<p>I found these other passages interesting too:</p>
<p>&#8220;His familiarity with the oil industry may have played a role in his transfer to Xinjiang, an oil-rich region. But he made his mark there by combining relentless economic development with punishing social policies to remake Turkic Xinjiang in Han China’s image.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Wang arrived in Xinjiang as the Soviet Union was dissolving, its central Asian pieces shedding their colonial chains. Millions of Han citizens transplanted by Mao after China’s army occupied the region in 1949 were leaving. Beijing feared that Xinjiang’s growing Muslim Uighur population would try to follow its Soviet neighbors into independence.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Wang’s antidote was a heavy dose of modernization for the ancient Uighur culture. He opened the region’s oil and gas fields to drilling, laid pipelines east to the Chinese heartland and west to Kazakhstan, and turned the Production and Construction Corps, a creaky make-work project for mustered-out Han soldiers, into a moneymaker listed on the Shanghai stock exchange.</p>
<p>&#8220;Han workers began flowing back, lured by industry and government jobs that Uighurs say were disproportionately parceled out to Han migrants. During the 1990s, Mr. Bequelin of Human Rights Watch said, about two million Han relocated to Xinjiang.</p>
<p>&#8220;At the same time, Mr. Wang tightly constrained Uighur culture and religion. He substituted Mandarin for Uighur in primary schools, saying minority languages were &#8216;out of step with the 21st century,&#8217; and banned or restricted Islamic practices among government workers, including the wearing of beards and head scarves and rituals like fasting and praying while on the job.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yet Mr. Wang’s efforts intensified after the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States. Within months, he began a campaign against terrorism and separatism that he linked to the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a little-known Uighur group. The Bush administration agreed, adding the group to its list of allies of Al Qaeda in 2002.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not a dose of criticism there at all, despite the blatant efforts to wipe out the Uighurs&#8217; language and severely restrict their religion. Wow! And as for the Bush connection, it&#8217;s widely believed, amongst those who have studied the Guantanamo Uighurs&#8217; cases, that designating the ETIM as a terrorist organization was designed to ensure Chinese support &#8212; or, at least, a lack of opposition &#8212; in the UN in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
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		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. *wave* Been offline due to a truly f*cked up rootkit. I&#039;ve been thinking about all this: why the Uighurs are barely noticed by the west, whereas the Tibetans are famous.I think that Mainland China typically tries to isolate Tibetans, Uighurs and other peoples and places that shall remain unnamed for now from the international community. I think the Dalai Lama is pretty wise in that regard, as are some other places that shall remain unnamed. Some people might say that the Dalai Lama has amazing PR skills (and  that is a monumental accomplishment since Tibetans have not always been regarded as a &quot;peaceful&quot; people.).  MC doesn&#039;t do itself any favors in terms of PR with the west on issues regarding Tibet. Calling the Dalai Lama all sorts of names just works against them.

As for the U.S. media on Xinjiang, I don&#039;t even know what to make of this article from the New York times(H/T http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6264)
A Strongman in China&#039;s Ethnic Strife
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/11/world/asia/11xinjiang.html

&quot;The government media may call this week’s rioting the worst outbreak of ethnic violence in recent Chinese history, killing at least 184 and injuring more than 1,000. But Mr. Wang is fully able to knock out the evildoers. He did so in 1997, quelling riots in Yining, near the Kazakhstan border, at a cost in lives that remains unknown.

Iron fist and velvet glove, he has suppressed Islam, welcomed industry, marginalized the Uighur language, built roads and rail links to the outside world, and spied on, arrested and jailed countless minority citizens in the name of stopping terrorism and subsuming Uighurs (pronounced WEE-gers) into a greater China.

Even his detractors allow that he has done a masterful job. His nickname is “the stability secretary” — a tribute to his ability to step into chaos and haul it to order.&quot;

Dysfunctional journalism, fascist paean  or tongue in cheek? I can&#039;t even tell, because I don&#039;t know much about the writer. I wonder how many of the &quot;facts&quot; are really stenographic journalism. The end of the 2nd page is also interesting as well since it suggests a connection between Bush and Chinese authorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. *wave* Been offline due to a truly f*cked up rootkit. I&#8217;ve been thinking about all this: why the Uighurs are barely noticed by the west, whereas the Tibetans are famous.I think that Mainland China typically tries to isolate Tibetans, Uighurs and other peoples and places that shall remain unnamed for now from the international community. I think the Dalai Lama is pretty wise in that regard, as are some other places that shall remain unnamed. Some people might say that the Dalai Lama has amazing PR skills (and  that is a monumental accomplishment since Tibetans have not always been regarded as a &#8220;peaceful&#8221; people.).  MC doesn&#8217;t do itself any favors in terms of PR with the west on issues regarding Tibet. Calling the Dalai Lama all sorts of names just works against them.</p>
<p>As for the U.S. media on Xinjiang, I don&#8217;t even know what to make of this article from the New York times(H/T <a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6264)" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6264?referer=');">http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6264)</a><br />
A Strongman in China&#8217;s Ethnic Strife<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/11/world/asia/11xinjiang.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.nytimes.com/2009/07/11/world/asia/11xinjiang.html?referer=');">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/11/world/asia/11xinjiang.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The government media may call this week’s rioting the worst outbreak of ethnic violence in recent Chinese history, killing at least 184 and injuring more than 1,000. But Mr. Wang is fully able to knock out the evildoers. He did so in 1997, quelling riots in Yining, near the Kazakhstan border, at a cost in lives that remains unknown.</p>
<p>Iron fist and velvet glove, he has suppressed Islam, welcomed industry, marginalized the Uighur language, built roads and rail links to the outside world, and spied on, arrested and jailed countless minority citizens in the name of stopping terrorism and subsuming Uighurs (pronounced WEE-gers) into a greater China.</p>
<p>Even his detractors allow that he has done a masterful job. His nickname is “the stability secretary” — a tribute to his ability to step into chaos and haul it to order.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dysfunctional journalism, fascist paean  or tongue in cheek? I can&#8217;t even tell, because I don&#8217;t know much about the writer. I wonder how many of the &#8220;facts&#8221; are really stenographic journalism. The end of the 2nd page is also interesting as well since it suggests a connection between Bush and Chinese authorities.</p>
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