Comments on: Guantánamo: Charge Or Release Prisoners, Say No To Indefinite Detention

By: No Escape From Guantánamo: The Latest Habeas Rulings by Andy Worthington « Dandelion Salad

Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:39:36 +0000

[...] a trial, and may, therefore, consider him a suitable candidate for its proposal to legislate for new powers of “indefinite detention,” to be reviewed by Congress and judges, which are supposed to provide an acceptable veneer to what [...]

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Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:02:54 +0000

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Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:13:56 +0000

[...] the government accepts Judge Huvelle’s ruling, Jawad will not be released immediately, because, under the terms of legislation recently forced on the government by Congress, the administration will have to provide lawmakers [...]

By: “La ‘detención preventiva’ es una traición radical a nuestros valores más fundamentales” – P+DH [periodismo + derechos humanos]

Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:49:15 +0000

[...] vez en un discurso pronunciado en mayo, y la noticia de que la Casa Blanca está redactado una orden ejecutiva que “reafirmaría la autoridad presidencial para encarcelar indefinidamente a sospechosos de [...]

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Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:18:19 +0000

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By: Military Commissions: Government Flounders, As Admiral Hutson Nails Problems by Andy Worthington « Dandelion Salad

Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:27:29 +0000

[...] by former Vice President Dick Cheney in November 2001), and indefinite detention. As I mentioned in an article last week, “At the time, civil liberties groups, lawyers and numerous commentators — myself included — [...]

By: Guantánamo: Charge Or Release Prisoners, Say No To Indefinite Detention by Andy Worthington « Dandelion Salad

Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:07:54 +0000

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By: Andy Worthington

Andy Worthington — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:25:11 +0000

Thanks, TD. You provoked a grim laugh as usual: “It’s not that we’re not used to being disappointed, or anything…”

And, of course, you’re also right about everything else: the only two options on the table — CHARGE OR RELEASE — and the desire for pre-ordained guilty verdicts.

Don’t they recall Jim Haynes’ words to Col. Morris Davis about the Commissions: “We can’t have acquitals”? Or, for that matter, that this is how ONLY dictatorships behave?

Apparently not. In the “War on Terror,” everything turned upside-down, and righting it is allegedly more complicated than it actually is.

Once more with more feeling: CHARGE OR RELEASE!

By: the talking dog

the talking dog — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:45:18 +0000

We’re back to having a government that apparently genuinely fears that due process of law will actually result in outcomes that are not preordained (notwithstanding the damned near 100% conviction rate for terrorism cases in federal courts, and notwithstanding that two out of three military commissions ended up handing out far shorter sentences than the government wanted). Slow learners, I guess.

Good work on the math by Andy, though I tend to think that the number proposed as subject to trial of 60 or so is absurdly high… by a factor, of say, 40, or 42 which, in my view, is much more likely to get us to the 90 or so who “are too dangerous to be tried but can’t be released” nonsense (rather than the Yemenis, who I think they really do want to send somewhere… anywhere except our sacred homeland).

There are countries that have such categories of people “too dangerous to release but who can’t be tried” in their custody: we rightfully call such countries “dictatorships.” There is no such category recognized by our law: men can either be held as prisoners of war, or they can be held as charged criminal suspects, or they can be released, period.

Of course, Obama is showing the same kind of courage on these issues that he seems to be showing on giving away the so-called “public option” in “health care reform”, or in giving away the stimulus part of the “stimulus bill”… It’s not that we’re not used to being disappointed, or anything…