Comments on: From Guantánamo To The South Pacific: Is This A Joke? http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/09/from-guantanamo-to-the-south-pacific-is-this-a-joke/ Author & journalist Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:09:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: “Los presos liberados de Guantánamo deberían poder pedir una compensación” – P+DH [periodismo + derechos humanos] http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/09/from-guantanamo-to-the-south-pacific-is-this-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-46362 “Los presos liberados de Guantánamo deberían poder pedir una compensación” – P+DH [periodismo + derechos humanos] Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:08:42 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=3315#comment-46362 [...] el tema de los presos inocentes de Guantánamo que van a ser liberados en terceros países. El caso de los uigures chinos es quizá el más famoso y el más representativo. Hace mucho tiempo que el ejército [...] [...] el tema de los presos inocentes de Guantánamo que van a ser liberados en terceros países. El caso de los uigures chinos es quizá el más famoso y el más representativo. Hace mucho tiempo que el ejército [...]

]]> By: RINF Alternative News Media: Daily Breaking News http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/09/from-guantanamo-to-the-south-pacific-is-this-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-39716 RINF Alternative News Media: Daily Breaking News Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:38:54 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=3315#comment-39716 [...] are still in Guantánamo, although according to information leaked last week, the US government is hoping to resettle them on the Pacific island of Palau, and is, it must be noted, anxious to do this before June 25, when [...] [...] are still in Guantánamo, although according to information leaked last week, the US government is hoping to resettle them on the Pacific island of Palau, and is, it must be noted, anxious to do this before June 25, when [...]

]]> By: Guantánamo’s Hidden History: Shocking Statistics of Starvation by Andy Worthington « Dandelion Salad http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/09/from-guantanamo-to-the-south-pacific-is-this-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-39665 Guantánamo’s Hidden History: Shocking Statistics of Starvation by Andy Worthington « Dandelion Salad Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:08:56 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=3315#comment-39665 [...] Andy Worthington Featured Writer Dandelion Salad www.andyworthington.co.uk 14 June [...] [...] Andy Worthington Featured Writer Dandelion Salad http://www.andyworthington.co.uk 14 June [...]

]]> By: nazcalito http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/09/from-guantanamo-to-the-south-pacific-is-this-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-39544 nazcalito Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:51:52 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=3315#comment-39544 Yep, Palau is in the North Pacific, Gene, but we can't expect these non-islanders to know where little Pacific islands are. But they might as well have sent them to Honolulu, because (as far as I can remember) people from Micronesia don't need visas to enter the U.S. Yep, Palau is in the North Pacific, Gene, but we can’t expect these non-islanders to know where little Pacific islands are. But they might as well have sent them to Honolulu, because (as far as I can remember) people from Micronesia don’t need visas to enter the U.S.

]]> By: mui http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/09/from-guantanamo-to-the-south-pacific-is-this-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-39476 mui Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:46:31 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=3315#comment-39476 We in the U.S. do not have good leadership on this issue. Many republicans seem to think that perpetual imprisonment and GITMO help the "War on Terra". Many Dems seem to want to treat the stateless, but not-guilty prisoners as toxic assets to be dumped in the damaged goods bin. Here's one FDL post (written by a mental health professional) responding to Sheldon Whitehouse's suggestions that: " detainees could be held because they are a danger to self and others under the same basic philosophy of the mental health commitment." link: http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5440 Palau seems to be a continuation of this damaged goods bin theme. No offense to the people of Palau. I am reading The Guantanamo files and I have never been more ashamed of my own country. Of course, I didn't live through slavery, jim crow and the civil rights era, but I feel if innocent prisoners don't receive justice we Americans will end up in hell with all the Nazis. And I am pretty secular. We in the U.S. do not have good leadership on this issue. Many republicans seem to think that perpetual imprisonment and GITMO help the “War on Terra”. Many Dems seem to want to treat the stateless, but not-guilty prisoners as toxic assets to be dumped in the damaged goods bin. Here’s one FDL post (written by a mental health professional) responding to Sheldon Whitehouse’s suggestions that: ” detainees could be held because they are a danger to self and others under the same basic philosophy of the mental health commitment.”
link: http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5440
Palau seems to be a continuation of this damaged goods bin theme. No offense to the people of Palau.

I am reading The Guantanamo files and I have never been more ashamed of my own country. Of course, I didn’t live through slavery, jim crow and the civil rights era, but I feel if innocent prisoners don’t receive justice we Americans will end up in hell with all the Nazis. And I am pretty secular.

]]> By: Pacific island set to accept Gitmo’s Chinese Muslims | Politics News http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/09/from-guantanamo-to-the-south-pacific-is-this-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-39466 Pacific island set to accept Gitmo’s Chinese Muslims | Politics News Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:09:20 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=3315#comment-39466 [...] and journalist Andy Worthington argues that the move shows signs of desperation on the part of the Obama administration: Could [...] [...] and journalist Andy Worthington argues that the move shows signs of desperation on the part of the Obama administration: Could [...]

]]> By: Andy Worthington http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/09/from-guantanamo-to-the-south-pacific-is-this-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-39463 Andy Worthington Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:49:32 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=3315#comment-39463 This was my reply: Hi Gene, Thanks for clarifying, though I actually used "South Pacific" as more of a cultural reference point i.e. the musical, to provide a contrast with Guantanamo. This was my reply:

Hi Gene,
Thanks for clarifying, though I actually used “South Pacific” as more of a cultural reference point i.e. the musical, to provide a contrast with Guantanamo.

]]> By: Andy Worthington http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/09/from-guantanamo-to-the-south-pacific-is-this-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-39462 Andy Worthington Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:48:51 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=3315#comment-39462 I also received the following message: Mr. Worthington, it's probably a minor point, but you should know that the Republic of Palau is not in the South Pacific. It is north of the equator--if being south of the equator defines islands as being in the South Pacific. Situating the islands of Micronesia in the south Pacific is common, but in doing so, those islands then share a stereotypical definition which is inconsistent with culture, language, and ethnicity of the islands north of the equator. I lived in Guam for many years and have visited Palau many times. Palauans are nothing like, for example, Tahitians, except, perhaps, in terms of their respective climates. Gene Bruce I also received the following message:

Mr. Worthington, it’s probably a minor point, but you should know that the Republic of Palau is not in the South Pacific. It is north of the equator–if being south of the equator defines islands as being in the South Pacific. Situating the islands of Micronesia in the south Pacific is common, but in doing so, those islands then share a stereotypical definition which is inconsistent with culture, language, and ethnicity of the islands north of the equator.

I lived in Guam for many years and have visited Palau many times. Palauans are nothing like, for example, Tahitians, except, perhaps, in terms of their respective climates.

Gene Bruce

]]> By: Andy Worthington http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/09/from-guantanamo-to-the-south-pacific-is-this-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-39455 Andy Worthington Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:32:14 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=3315#comment-39455 My reply: I could do with a nice film at 11, but I bet it won't be, and anyhow, I'll probably be working. Good news from the UK today, at least, as the law Lords decided to take exception to holding men under house arrest without letting them know what they're supposed to have done. Perhaps the tide is turning ... My reply:

I could do with a nice film at 11, but I bet it won’t be, and anyhow, I’ll probably be working.

Good news from the UK today, at least, as the law Lords decided to take exception to holding men under house arrest without letting them know what they’re supposed to have done. Perhaps the tide is turning …

]]> By: Andy Worthington http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/09/from-guantanamo-to-the-south-pacific-is-this-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-39454 Andy Worthington Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:31:30 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=3315#comment-39454 The Talking Dog said: Palau will be "the new Cuba". Madman shoots up Holocaust memorial in Washington, DC. New York State government is sold to out of state billionaire. Film at 11. The Talking Dog said:

Palau will be “the new Cuba”. Madman shoots up Holocaust memorial in Washington, DC. New York State government is sold to out of state billionaire.

Film at 11.

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