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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/04/death-at-guantanamo-hovers-over-obamas-middle-east-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-39465</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was my reply:

Hi Bob,
I stand corrected, as that sentence should have read that the &quot;policy of subjecting prisoners to arbitrary detention as &#039;enemy combatants&#039; has been a wretched failure in terms of adherence to the laws on which the Untied States was founded.&quot;

But you&#039;re absolutely right about its intended effect, and how the new boys&#039; broom is not sufficiently sturdy ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was my reply:</p>
<p>Hi Bob,<br />
I stand corrected, as that sentence should have read that the &#8220;policy of subjecting prisoners to arbitrary detention as &#8216;enemy combatants&#8217; has been a wretched failure in terms of adherence to the laws on which the Untied States was founded.&#8221;</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re absolutely right about its intended effect, and how the new boys&#8217; broom is not sufficiently sturdy &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also received the following message:

Dear Andy,

I often read your articles on CounterPunch and find them always informative.

Perhaps, though, you might reconsider your statement that the &quot;policy of subjecting prisoners to arbitrary detention as &#039;enemy combatants&#039; has been a wretched failure&quot;.

I believe that it HAS been successful a part of a strategy of terrorizing both US opponents overseas and the American public.  Clearly, Cheney wanted to create a worldwide climate of fear, and to show that the US military can do whatever it wants, where ever and whenever it wants, regardless of US or international law.

Even worse, Obama and Gates have continued this policy, regardless of their statements to the contrary.

best regards,
Bob M. 
Berkeley, Calif.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also received the following message:</p>
<p>Dear Andy,</p>
<p>I often read your articles on CounterPunch and find them always informative.</p>
<p>Perhaps, though, you might reconsider your statement that the &#8220;policy of subjecting prisoners to arbitrary detention as &#8216;enemy combatants&#8217; has been a wretched failure&#8221;.</p>
<p>I believe that it HAS been successful a part of a strategy of terrorizing both US opponents overseas and the American public.  Clearly, Cheney wanted to create a worldwide climate of fear, and to show that the US military can do whatever it wants, where ever and whenever it wants, regardless of US or international law.</p>
<p>Even worse, Obama and Gates have continued this policy, regardless of their statements to the contrary.</p>
<p>best regards,<br />
Bob M.<br />
Berkeley, Calif.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/04/death-at-guantanamo-hovers-over-obamas-middle-east-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-39215</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks,TD.
Well, that could be today&#039;s T-shirt slogan, under a pic of the big O:
&quot;More handsome, but no less totalitarian&quot;
At the moment, there&#039;s still a question mark at the end of that phrase, but we&#039;re watching closely ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks,TD.<br />
Well, that could be today&#8217;s T-shirt slogan, under a pic of the big O:<br />
&#8220;More handsome, but no less totalitarian&#8221;<br />
At the moment, there&#8217;s still a question mark at the end of that phrase, but we&#8217;re watching closely &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: the talking dog</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/04/death-at-guantanamo-hovers-over-obamas-middle-east-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-39201</link>
		<dc:creator>the talking dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Mr. Worthington you are a hero for democracy, I wish you would have a bigger platform.&lt;/i&gt;

Word up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Mr. Worthington you are a hero for democracy, I wish you would have a bigger platform.</i></p>
<p>Word up.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/04/death-at-guantanamo-hovers-over-obamas-middle-east-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-39200</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this (also from the Huffington Post), from Salpha, who made a great point about how Cheney, Limbaugh, O&#039;Reilly, Fox News and others have manipulated US opinion about closing Guantanamo in just a few short months, using their usual ungrounded fearmongering:

Thanks Mr. Worthington for your brave and long quest into informing us about the great injustice perpetrated in Guantanamo. If only the good people of the US would understand how this is such a stain that will not go away until it is resolve. Since 9/11 the US have been manipulated to fear and panic by the media and some unscrupulous politicians.

In January a poll showed that a big majority of Americans wanted Guantanamo closed. It took the Cheney tour, Limbaugh, O&#039;Reilly, Fox News and all the politicians that use fear to gain political point to twist the truth to reverse the opinion of the US citizens. Now a recent poll shows two third of the US does not want Guantanamo closed. How can this happen in such a short while? It must be very depressing for all the people who are fighting for the US to return to the democracy it claimed to be and the rule of law and respect the treaty they signed.

Mr. Worthington you are a hero for democracy, I wish you would have a bigger platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this (also from the Huffington Post), from Salpha, who made a great point about how Cheney, Limbaugh, O&#8217;Reilly, Fox News and others have manipulated US opinion about closing Guantanamo in just a few short months, using their usual ungrounded fearmongering:</p>
<p>Thanks Mr. Worthington for your brave and long quest into informing us about the great injustice perpetrated in Guantanamo. If only the good people of the US would understand how this is such a stain that will not go away until it is resolve. Since 9/11 the US have been manipulated to fear and panic by the media and some unscrupulous politicians.</p>
<p>In January a poll showed that a big majority of Americans wanted Guantanamo closed. It took the Cheney tour, Limbaugh, O&#8217;Reilly, Fox News and all the politicians that use fear to gain political point to twist the truth to reverse the opinion of the US citizens. Now a recent poll shows two third of the US does not want Guantanamo closed. How can this happen in such a short while? It must be very depressing for all the people who are fighting for the US to return to the democracy it claimed to be and the rule of law and respect the treaty they signed.</p>
<p>Mr. Worthington you are a hero for democracy, I wish you would have a bigger platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Pepe Escobar: Peace be upon Barack &#171; Dandelion Salad</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/04/death-at-guantanamo-hovers-over-obamas-middle-east-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-39197</link>
		<dc:creator>Pepe Escobar: Peace be upon Barack &#171; Dandelion Salad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the talking dog</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/04/death-at-guantanamo-hovers-over-obamas-middle-east-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-39190</link>
		<dc:creator>the talking dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I believe Obama is worse than Bush in some ways, he”s trying to make the illegal things that Bush did now legal, like preventively detaining people for as long as he wants.&lt;/i&gt;

Funny, that.  

To be sure, Bush always asserted that what he did was legal (and had memos written by Addington and signed by Yoo telling him so).  But Obama, the supposed &quot;conciliatory figure,&quot; proposing that &quot;we will honor the rule of law&quot; and that the President doesn&#039;t have &quot;unitary executive&quot; dictatorial powers, asserts that such powers can be conferred by an act of Congress.  I understand the imperatives of political expediency, in particular in the defense/security area where Obama is unquestionably out of his depth, and he is likely facing a rogue military and intel apparatus (perhaps he should have thought about replacing his predecessor&#039;s SecDef... just saying.)  Still and all, those of us who supported him did so for CHANGE in this one area most of all.  And we&#039;re getting anything but.

Instead, what we&#039;re getting is so much more handsome, but no less totalitarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I believe Obama is worse than Bush in some ways, he”s trying to make the illegal things that Bush did now legal, like preventively detaining people for as long as he wants.</i></p>
<p>Funny, that.  </p>
<p>To be sure, Bush always asserted that what he did was legal (and had memos written by Addington and signed by Yoo telling him so).  But Obama, the supposed &#8220;conciliatory figure,&#8221; proposing that &#8220;we will honor the rule of law&#8221; and that the President doesn&#8217;t have &#8220;unitary executive&#8221; dictatorial powers, asserts that such powers can be conferred by an act of Congress.  I understand the imperatives of political expediency, in particular in the defense/security area where Obama is unquestionably out of his depth, and he is likely facing a rogue military and intel apparatus (perhaps he should have thought about replacing his predecessor&#8217;s SecDef&#8230; just saying.)  Still and all, those of us who supported him did so for CHANGE in this one area most of all.  And we&#8217;re getting anything but.</p>
<p>Instead, what we&#8217;re getting is so much more handsome, but no less totalitarian.</p>
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		<title>By: Frances Madeson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frances Madeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s unfair to suggest that his one statement about closing Guantanamo is the only one affecting the fate of the prisoners. In the very act of the speech he&#039;s transforming the context in which decisions about the fate of the prisoners can be made. It will be salutary, I&#039;m confident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s unfair to suggest that his one statement about closing Guantanamo is the only one affecting the fate of the prisoners. In the very act of the speech he&#8217;s transforming the context in which decisions about the fate of the prisoners can be made. It will be salutary, I&#8217;m confident.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie L. Nash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie L. Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all your cross-posts, Andy.  Any and all are welcome and more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all your cross-posts, Andy.  Any and all are welcome and more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t often cross-post comments from other sites, but was impressed by this comment from TruthOverPropaganda when this article was published on the Huffington Post:

&quot;Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable... Every step toward the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals.&quot; Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. 

I admire your tireless efforts in calling for the just treatment of these detainees. Your blog posts, even though Huff Post rarely posts them on the Home page, give a voice to those whose voices can&quot;t be heard, and for this I want to say THANK YOU. These are human beings and they are being treated like dogs, even dogs deserve better treatment than this. I believe Obama is worse than Bush in some ways, he&quot;s trying to make the illegal things that Bush did now legal, like preventively detaining people for as long as he wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t often cross-post comments from other sites, but was impressed by this comment from TruthOverPropaganda when this article was published on the Huffington Post:</p>
<p>&#8220;Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable&#8230; Every step toward the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals.&#8221; Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. </p>
<p>I admire your tireless efforts in calling for the just treatment of these detainees. Your blog posts, even though Huff Post rarely posts them on the Home page, give a voice to those whose voices can&#8221;t be heard, and for this I want to say THANK YOU. These are human beings and they are being treated like dogs, even dogs deserve better treatment than this. I believe Obama is worse than Bush in some ways, he&#8221;s trying to make the illegal things that Bush did now legal, like preventively detaining people for as long as he wants.</p>
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