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	<title>Comments on: In the Guardian: Remembering the Battle of the Beanfield</title>
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	<description>Investigative journalist, author, filmmaker and Guantanamo expert</description>
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		<title>By: sprout</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/01/in-the-guardian-remembering-the-battle-of-the-beanfield/comment-page-1/#comment-93017</link>
		<dc:creator>sprout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mutoid bob...............hello,,,remember odstock after green lane,ott 49,,blimey,hope your well,,,my last memory was fredrick william cox of the bristol constablary twatting my head in whilst two of our finest booted me ribbs out,,loverly eh,,,im still looking for a bristol albion for myself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mutoid bob&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;hello,,,remember odstock after green lane,ott 49,,blimey,hope your well,,,my last memory was fredrick william cox of the bristol constablary twatting my head in whilst two of our finest booted me ribbs out,,loverly eh,,,im still looking for a bristol albion for myself</p>
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		<title>By: MUTIOD BOB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MUTIOD BOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE BEANFIELD AND MY ONE OUT STANDING MEMORYS IS THT OF A SEMI NAKESD WOMAN BEING CHASE BY TWO OF BRITIANS FINEST HA HA WITH HER YOUNG BABY (6 MONTH OLD),STILL AT HER BREAST.BUT THA T ALL THEY COULD DO WAGE WAR ON WOMAN AND KIDS AS FOR MYSELF LOST BOTH MY HOME AND DOG THE SPRITS STILL LIVES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE BEANFIELD AND MY ONE OUT STANDING MEMORYS IS THT OF A SEMI NAKESD WOMAN BEING CHASE BY TWO OF BRITIANS FINEST HA HA WITH HER YOUNG BABY (6 MONTH OLD),STILL AT HER BREAST.BUT THA T ALL THEY COULD DO WAGE WAR ON WOMAN AND KIDS AS FOR MYSELF LOST BOTH MY HOME AND DOG THE SPRITS STILL LIVES</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 08:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s SchNEWS&#039; excellent take on the anniversary:
http://www.schnews.org.uk/archive/news6781.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s SchNEWS&#8217; excellent take on the anniversary:<br />
<a href="http://www.schnews.org.uk/archive/news6781.php" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.schnews.org.uk/archive/news6781.php?referer=');">http://www.schnews.org.uk/archive/news6781.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Free Party People,
Well, you live and learn. I first put Castlemorton in Gloucestershire in my book &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/stonehenge-celebration-subversion/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stonehenge: Celebration and Subversion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, published five years ago, and no one has corrected me until now -- and it&#039;s not as though I wasn&#039;t there (although no doubt many of those who were there had no idea where they actually were!)

And sorry the link wasn&#039;t correct -- although I guess any link is better than nothing. It wasn&#039;t a link that I provided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Free Party People,<br />
Well, you live and learn. I first put Castlemorton in Gloucestershire in my book <em><a href="http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/stonehenge-celebration-subversion/" rel="nofollow">Stonehenge: Celebration and Subversion</a></em>, published five years ago, and no one has corrected me until now &#8212; and it&#8217;s not as though I wasn&#8217;t there (although no doubt many of those who were there had no idea where they actually were!)</p>
<p>And sorry the link wasn&#8217;t correct &#8212; although I guess any link is better than nothing. It wasn&#8217;t a link that I provided.</p>
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		<title>By: freepartyperson</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepartyperson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy,

I already sent a mail to what I thought was your email address at the Guardian, but it bounced back. I also sent it to the general &#039;userhelp&#039; address at the Guardian but I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s been received as I&#039;ve had no response, anyway, here&#039;s the text of the mail I sent:

I was very excited to see that you&#039;ve linked to my website. However, the link is wrong. The link points to the festival that took place in Lechlade, Gloucestershire, on May Day bank holiday weekend 1992. Castlemorton, which is a lot more (in)famous, took place on the bank holiday at the end of May in the same year. The correct link is:
http://freepartypeople.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/may-12th-1992-castlemorton-common-free-festival/
Also, Castlemorton is in Worcestershire, not Gloucestershire as stated in the article.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy,</p>
<p>I already sent a mail to what I thought was your email address at the Guardian, but it bounced back. I also sent it to the general &#8216;userhelp&#8217; address at the Guardian but I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s been received as I&#8217;ve had no response, anyway, here&#8217;s the text of the mail I sent:</p>
<p>I was very excited to see that you&#8217;ve linked to my website. However, the link is wrong. The link points to the festival that took place in Lechlade, Gloucestershire, on May Day bank holiday weekend 1992. Castlemorton, which is a lot more (in)famous, took place on the bank holiday at the end of May in the same year. The correct link is:<br />
<a href="http://freepartypeople.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/may-12th-1992-castlemorton-common-free-festival/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/freepartypeople.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/may-12th-1992-castlemorton-common-free-festival/?referer=');">http://freepartypeople.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/may-12th-1992-castlemorton-common-free-festival/</a><br />
Also, Castlemorton is in Worcestershire, not Gloucestershire as stated in the article.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And my reply:

Yes, but just now, with elections and expenses scandal and Gordon will-he-won&#039;t he and Cabinet resignations, there&#039;s virtually no room for anything else in home news. They obsess. Usually not for long. Then they move on. The expenses scandal is a rarity in that it&#039;s lasting so long.

I think generally nothing in the media lasts more than two weeks. If we woke up tomorrow and it was World War II but we had the modern media, we&#039;d have switched off before the end of September 1939.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And my reply:</p>
<p>Yes, but just now, with elections and expenses scandal and Gordon will-he-won&#8217;t he and Cabinet resignations, there&#8217;s virtually no room for anything else in home news. They obsess. Usually not for long. Then they move on. The expenses scandal is a rarity in that it&#8217;s lasting so long.</p>
<p>I think generally nothing in the media lasts more than two weeks. If we woke up tomorrow and it was World War II but we had the modern media, we&#8217;d have switched off before the end of September 1939.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And James&#039; reply:

Seen to-day&#039;s Telegraph headline?
&quot;Enormous crowds in Hong Kong commemorating Tiananmen Square&quot;
Bigger crowds in Trafalgar Square, a little nearer home,  protesting Iraq went unreported.
Conspiracy Theory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And James&#8217; reply:</p>
<p>Seen to-day&#8217;s Telegraph headline?<br />
&#8220;Enormous crowds in Hong Kong commemorating Tiananmen Square&#8221;<br />
Bigger crowds in Trafalgar Square, a little nearer home,  protesting Iraq went unreported.<br />
Conspiracy Theory?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My reply:

Thanks for getting in touch. I&#039;ve thought for a long time that politics should be like jury service, as it&#039;s apparent that it doesn&#039;t work allowing people with no relevant qualifications -- and often only a thirst for power -- to run the show. I also don&#039;t understand why the media collectively refuses to cover protests adequately. I&#039;m not one for conspiracy theories, but in this case it seems to be generally understood that protests will be
underreported, or not reported at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My reply:</p>
<p>Thanks for getting in touch. I&#8217;ve thought for a long time that politics should be like jury service, as it&#8217;s apparent that it doesn&#8217;t work allowing people with no relevant qualifications &#8212; and often only a thirst for power &#8212; to run the show. I also don&#8217;t understand why the media collectively refuses to cover protests adequately. I&#8217;m not one for conspiracy theories, but in this case it seems to be generally understood that protests will be<br />
underreported, or not reported at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also received the following:

Hello Andy,
Thanks for a very good posting on the Beanfield and relevant to-day.
The motivation for enhanced police powers and repressive government legislation seems to be part of a  pattern --  the determination to keep the lid on an educated and informed population beginning to realise that in a democracy it is the people themselves, and not elected &#039;representatives&#039; and certainly not a monarchy who are sovereign. At present the sovereign has no voice in a &#039;democracy&#039; but is conned into voting away their right to self government.
The Beanfield lesson would be pretty bleak if there was not a way to reverse it.
The way I suggest, is an amendment to the &#039;constitution&#039; (which exists on the ground but not on paper.) The amendment is to put the people in power in an Assembly chosen by lottery of the adult population.
This Assembly of the people is the appropriate new body to keep MP&#039;s in check and initiate debate on any subject.
 
I am interested in the words you use to describe the pressure on the media not to report events.  The policy seems to be to totally suppress any articulation of the people -- except on the terms of representative institutions who have already captured the system.
Using the term &#039;mob&#039;, reporting only the violent fringe and ignoring legitimate gatherings (the latest Gaza protest in Trafalgar Square of some thousands did not make the  BBC radio or TV news!) and consistently and grossly underestimating demo numbers are part of the pattern.   Now is an opportune time to promote the Assembly.
 
Can you explain how this pressure works?
James, Dorchester</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also received the following:</p>
<p>Hello Andy,<br />
Thanks for a very good posting on the Beanfield and relevant to-day.<br />
The motivation for enhanced police powers and repressive government legislation seems to be part of a  pattern &#8212;  the determination to keep the lid on an educated and informed population beginning to realise that in a democracy it is the people themselves, and not elected &#8216;representatives&#8217; and certainly not a monarchy who are sovereign. At present the sovereign has no voice in a &#8216;democracy&#8217; but is conned into voting away their right to self government.<br />
The Beanfield lesson would be pretty bleak if there was not a way to reverse it.<br />
The way I suggest, is an amendment to the &#8216;constitution&#8217; (which exists on the ground but not on paper.) The amendment is to put the people in power in an Assembly chosen by lottery of the adult population.<br />
This Assembly of the people is the appropriate new body to keep MP&#8217;s in check and initiate debate on any subject.</p>
<p>I am interested in the words you use to describe the pressure on the media not to report events.  The policy seems to be to totally suppress any articulation of the people &#8212; except on the terms of representative institutions who have already captured the system.<br />
Using the term &#8216;mob&#8217;, reporting only the violent fringe and ignoring legitimate gatherings (the latest Gaza protest in Trafalgar Square of some thousands did not make the  BBC radio or TV news!) and consistently and grossly underestimating demo numbers are part of the pattern.   Now is an opportune time to promote the Assembly.</p>
<p>Can you explain how this pressure works?<br />
James, Dorchester</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, thanks for the supportive words, and the message about the promise of our children. Spot-on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, thanks for the supportive words, and the message about the promise of our children. Spot-on.</p>
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