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	<title>Comments on: Life After Guantánamo: Lakhdar Boumediene Speaks</title>
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		<title>By: acn09</title>
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		<dc:creator>acn09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a way to get in touch with him? I just want to apologize to him, and all the others who were unnecessarily imprisoned and tortured as a result of red tape and inept government officials, for not looking into this issue further and taking action. It seems like our country has a tendency to proclaim it&#039;s integrity, make horrific mistakes,  and then take a mighty long time to actually prove it or even own up to them.  I am more than fortunate to live here, and I believe in the United State&#039;s potential to be a model among nations, but we aren&#039;t there yet, and it seems that no one really wants to dig deeper and find out the whole story. I hope people start realizing that the future of our country (or my country if you&#039;re from somewhere else) lies in whether or not we sit back and complacently watch our government make mistakes and even commit egregious wrongs (we are a nation made of human beings after all, and we are NOT perfect) or whether we start taking responsibility for ourselves and our actions, and actually work on improving ourselves through thoughtful reflection and sure action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a way to get in touch with him? I just want to apologize to him, and all the others who were unnecessarily imprisoned and tortured as a result of red tape and inept government officials, for not looking into this issue further and taking action. It seems like our country has a tendency to proclaim it&#8217;s integrity, make horrific mistakes,  and then take a mighty long time to actually prove it or even own up to them.  I am more than fortunate to live here, and I believe in the United State&#8217;s potential to be a model among nations, but we aren&#8217;t there yet, and it seems that no one really wants to dig deeper and find out the whole story. I hope people start realizing that the future of our country (or my country if you&#8217;re from somewhere else) lies in whether or not we sit back and complacently watch our government make mistakes and even commit egregious wrongs (we are a nation made of human beings after all, and we are NOT perfect) or whether we start taking responsibility for ourselves and our actions, and actually work on improving ourselves through thoughtful reflection and sure action.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 18:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dog is barking this Saturday!

Thanks for the comments, TD. I did wonder about adding something to the Post&#039;s unnecessary proviso, along the lines of asking if it was editorial policy to state, every time a civilian court failed to convict someone, that the defense&#039;s &quot;version of events is impossible to verify independently&quot; -- and also to point out that, in federal courts, prisoners are also not kidnapped and held for nearly seven years before their cases are dismissed -- but decided that would be an unwieldy intrusion into the flow of the article. So thanks for giving me the excuse to point it out.

And thanks also for pointing out, as should happen every day, accompanied by some sort of loud siren, that the courts have, to date, cleared 86 percent of the prisoners whose cases have been heard, and that Obama has so far released only two prisoners -- and, I might add, that 21 of those 25 prisoners whose habeas petitions were successful are still held.

Many months ago, I toyed with the idea of setting up a campaigning website, &quot;Free the Guantanamo Uighurs,&quot; to canvas support for the release of the 17 Uighurs, and to put the spotlight on Judges Randolph and Henderson, the appeals court judges who dismissed Judge Ricardo Urbina&#039;s order to release the Uighurs into the US last October. 

The more their distressing limbo is maintained, the more I&#039;m thinking that it really needs to be done ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dog is barking this Saturday!</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments, TD. I did wonder about adding something to the Post&#8217;s unnecessary proviso, along the lines of asking if it was editorial policy to state, every time a civilian court failed to convict someone, that the defense&#8217;s &#8220;version of events is impossible to verify independently&#8221; &#8212; and also to point out that, in federal courts, prisoners are also not kidnapped and held for nearly seven years before their cases are dismissed &#8212; but decided that would be an unwieldy intrusion into the flow of the article. So thanks for giving me the excuse to point it out.</p>
<p>And thanks also for pointing out, as should happen every day, accompanied by some sort of loud siren, that the courts have, to date, cleared 86 percent of the prisoners whose cases have been heard, and that Obama has so far released only two prisoners &#8212; and, I might add, that 21 of those 25 prisoners whose habeas petitions were successful are still held.</p>
<p>Many months ago, I toyed with the idea of setting up a campaigning website, &#8220;Free the Guantanamo Uighurs,&#8221; to canvas support for the release of the 17 Uighurs, and to put the spotlight on Judges Randolph and Henderson, the appeals court judges who dismissed Judge Ricardo Urbina&#8217;s order to release the Uighurs into the US last October. </p>
<p>The more their distressing limbo is maintained, the more I&#8217;m thinking that it really needs to be done &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: the talking dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>the talking dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 14:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lakhdar has shown the kind of equanimity, grace and downright class  that most of the ex-detainees who  have managed to make it to countries where they are allowed to talk about their ordeal have demonstrated.  Of course, speaking out at all, I suppose, will be interpreted as just one more terrrrrrorist returning to the battlefield.  

The &lt;i&gt;Washington Post&lt;/i&gt; does indeed add that zinger qualifier &quot;of course it can&#039;t be confirmed&quot;...  But notice what is  not discussed in the WaPo article (because then, perhaps, Americans might actually not be able to deny it): Lakhdar was not merely a successful litigant before the United States Supreme Court, he is one of 25 out of 29 detainees who have had habeas corpus hearings (in American federal court, by American judges) determine that the United States simply has no legal reason to  hold  them.  And for  those who fear &quot;liberal activist judges&quot;, he was so found by Judge Richard Leon, a George W. Bush appointee who has given the government every possible benefit of the doubt (and is indeed the only judge to have found that there &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; a legal basis to hold anyone).  

Despite detainees winning over 86% of their legal cases, the Obama Admin. has released a pathetic &lt;i&gt;two&lt;/i&gt; in four months; at this rate, detainees will trickle out over the next 3 or 4 decades, making that &quot;close GTMO in one year&quot; promise about as empty as everything else associated with &quot;the &lt;strike&gt;excuse for tyranny&lt;/strike&gt; nebulous thing formerly known as the  war on terror&quot;.

President Obama&#039;s rhetoric on the subject has been laudable; his actual action on the subject to date has been anything but.  I recognize that there may be &quot;pragmatic&quot; political reasons for this, and the President may still be in his &quot;honeymoon phase&quot; for many people.  Neither ia an excuse for we, the citizenry, to engage in the least bit of complacency in the face of an egregious ONGOING injustice being committed by our own government right in front of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lakhdar has shown the kind of equanimity, grace and downright class  that most of the ex-detainees who  have managed to make it to countries where they are allowed to talk about their ordeal have demonstrated.  Of course, speaking out at all, I suppose, will be interpreted as just one more terrrrrrorist returning to the battlefield.  </p>
<p>The <i>Washington Post</i> does indeed add that zinger qualifier &#8220;of course it can&#8217;t be confirmed&#8221;&#8230;  But notice what is  not discussed in the WaPo article (because then, perhaps, Americans might actually not be able to deny it): Lakhdar was not merely a successful litigant before the United States Supreme Court, he is one of 25 out of 29 detainees who have had habeas corpus hearings (in American federal court, by American judges) determine that the United States simply has no legal reason to  hold  them.  And for  those who fear &#8220;liberal activist judges&#8221;, he was so found by Judge Richard Leon, a George W. Bush appointee who has given the government every possible benefit of the doubt (and is indeed the only judge to have found that there <i>was</i> a legal basis to hold anyone).  </p>
<p>Despite detainees winning over 86% of their legal cases, the Obama Admin. has released a pathetic <i>two</i> in four months; at this rate, detainees will trickle out over the next 3 or 4 decades, making that &#8220;close GTMO in one year&#8221; promise about as empty as everything else associated with &#8220;the <strike>excuse for tyranny</strike> nebulous thing formerly known as the  war on terror&#8221;.</p>
<p>President Obama&#8217;s rhetoric on the subject has been laudable; his actual action on the subject to date has been anything but.  I recognize that there may be &#8220;pragmatic&#8221; political reasons for this, and the President may still be in his &#8220;honeymoon phase&#8221; for many people.  Neither ia an excuse for we, the citizenry, to engage in the least bit of complacency in the face of an egregious ONGOING injustice being committed by our own government right in front of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Life After Guantánamo: Lakhdar Boumediene Speaks by Andy Worthington &#171; Dandelion Salad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life After Guantánamo: Lakhdar Boumediene Speaks by Andy Worthington &#171; Dandelion Salad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 01:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be appropriate, Frances.
I only really put this article together to focus on that one particular line that Lakhdar said about his new-found freedom:
“I told my wife that for the first time I felt like a man again, tasting things, picking things up in my fingers, eating lunch with my wife and my two daughters.”
I&#039;m also curious, because the &lt;em&gt;Post&lt;/em&gt; said that it had conducted an extensive interview, although not much surfaced in the article, and I&#039;d like to hear what else he had to say. Perhaps one day I too can buy him pizza in Paris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be appropriate, Frances.<br />
I only really put this article together to focus on that one particular line that Lakhdar said about his new-found freedom:<br />
“I told my wife that for the first time I felt like a man again, tasting things, picking things up in my fingers, eating lunch with my wife and my two daughters.”<br />
I&#8217;m also curious, because the <em>Post</em> said that it had conducted an extensive interview, although not much surfaced in the article, and I&#8217;d like to hear what else he had to say. Perhaps one day I too can buy him pizza in Paris.</p>
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		<title>By: Frances Madeson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frances Madeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pizza in a Paris dive sounds like a slice of heaven. My only hope is that when Mr. Boumediene sues, as he should in the name of justice, the papers are served behind bars to already sitting criminals doing time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pizza in a Paris dive sounds like a slice of heaven. My only hope is that when Mr. Boumediene sues, as he should in the name of justice, the papers are served behind bars to already sitting criminals doing time.</p>
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