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	<title>Comments on: Freed Bosnian Calls Guantánamo the “worst place in the world”</title>
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		<title>By: Who Is the Palestinian Released from Guantánamo in Spain? &#171; freedetainees.org</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2008/12/18/freed-bosnian-calls-guantanamo-the-worst-place-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-55212</link>
		<dc:creator>Who Is the Palestinian Released from Guantánamo in Spain? &#171; freedetainees.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1 Yemeni (Salim Hamdan) repatriated to serve out the last month of his sentence; December 2008 –- 3 Bosnian Algerians; January 2009 –- 1 Afghan, 1 Algerian, 4 Iraqis; ; February 2009 — 1 British resident (Binyam [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Stories Of The Two Somalis Freed From Guantánamo &#171; freedetainees.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Stories Of The Two Somalis Freed From Guantánamo &#171; freedetainees.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1 Yemeni (Salim Hamdan) repatriated to serve out the last month of his sentence; December 2008 –- 3 Bosnian Algerians; January 2009 –- 1 Afghan, 1 Algerian, 4 Iraqis; ; February 2009 — 1 British resident (Binyam [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Innocent Guantánamo Torture Victim Fouad al-Rabiah Is Released In Kuwait &#171; freedetainees.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Innocent Guantánamo Torture Victim Fouad al-Rabiah Is Released In Kuwait &#171; freedetainees.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1 Yemeni (Salim Hamdan) repatriated to serve out the last month of his sentence; December 2008 –- 3 Bosnian Algerians; January 2009 –- 1 Afghan, 1 Algerian, 4 Iraqis; ; February 2009 — 1 British resident (Binyam [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1 Yemeni (Salim Hamdan) repatriated to serve out the last month of his sentence; December 2008 –- 3 Bosnian Algerians; January 2009 –- 1 Afghan, 1 Algerian, 4 Iraqis; ; February 2009 — 1 British resident (Binyam [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Four Men Leave Guantánamo; Two Face Ill-Defined Trials In Italy &#171; freedetainees.org</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2008/12/18/freed-bosnian-calls-guantanamo-the-worst-place-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-52359</link>
		<dc:creator>Four Men Leave Guantánamo; Two Face Ill-Defined Trials In Italy &#171; freedetainees.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] although three of the five men — Mustafa Ait Idr, Hadj Boudella and Mohammed Nechla — were released within weeks of the decision, the fourth, Lakhdar Boumediene, had to wait until May to be freed, when he was accepted by the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Four Men Leave Guantánamo; Two Face Ill-Defined Trials In Italy by Andy Worthington &#171; Dandelion Salad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Four Men Leave Guantánamo; Two Face Ill-Defined Trials In Italy by Andy Worthington &#171; Dandelion Salad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] although three of the five men — Mustafa Ait Idr, Hadj Boudella and Mohammed Nechla — were released within weeks of the decision, the fourth, Lakhdar Boumediene, had to wait until May to be freed, when he was accepted by the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Obama’s First 100 Days: A Start On Guantánamo, But Not Enough by Andy Worthington &#171; Dandelion Salad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama’s First 100 Days: A Start On Guantánamo, But Not Enough by Andy Worthington &#171; Dandelion Salad</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] release was ordered after their habeas reviews, but who are still held in Guantánamo. (To date, just three men have been released since being cleared by the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: the talking dog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“They only questioned me about Islamic organizations working in Bosnia … I’ve spent many years in the worst place on earth for doing nothing.”&lt;/i&gt;

No, not &lt;i&gt;nothing&lt;/i&gt;: Cheney, Addington, and let&#039;s face it, George W. Bush, wanted to demonstrate their manliness by demonstrating literally that they could &lt;i&gt;get away with all of this,&lt;/i&gt; both legally (check) and politically (check).  Under this analysis, the more outrageous and unjustified the conduct, the better: this was all a demonstration project as to just how far the limits of executive power could be abused before someone pushed back.  Answer: pretty damned far.  That actual human beings were involved, most completely innocent of anything remotely connected to terrorism and often, as in the case of the Bosnians, picked up thousands of miles from &quot;the war&quot;.

The American military probably would have revolted at some point (at least we sincerely hope so) if they were asked to run all-out death camps as opposed to just torture camps where some people died occasionally (at Guantanamo, only 4 so far, that&#039;s not even 1 a year)... 
the thing is, it&#039;s understood that in wars, people can be killed.  The novelty here was to try to shake up and redefine some of the most agreed-upon tenets of civilization-- that torture is never EVER justified, period, no exceptions.  

Unfortunately, I fear my college classmate Barack Obama&#039;s &quot;pragmatism&quot; (regardless of whether he will &quot;close Guantanamo...&quot; for which he seems to have now given himself &lt;i&gt;up to two years more&lt;/i&gt;) will dictate that he not pursue accountability for those responsible (up to and including his predecessor), thereby allowing this unlawful, unConstitutional, and uncivilized precedent to stand.  Here&#039;s hoping I&#039;m wrong about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“They only questioned me about Islamic organizations working in Bosnia … I’ve spent many years in the worst place on earth for doing nothing.”</i></p>
<p>No, not <i>nothing</i>: Cheney, Addington, and let&#8217;s face it, George W. Bush, wanted to demonstrate their manliness by demonstrating literally that they could <i>get away with all of this,</i> both legally (check) and politically (check).  Under this analysis, the more outrageous and unjustified the conduct, the better: this was all a demonstration project as to just how far the limits of executive power could be abused before someone pushed back.  Answer: pretty damned far.  That actual human beings were involved, most completely innocent of anything remotely connected to terrorism and often, as in the case of the Bosnians, picked up thousands of miles from &#8220;the war&#8221;.</p>
<p>The American military probably would have revolted at some point (at least we sincerely hope so) if they were asked to run all-out death camps as opposed to just torture camps where some people died occasionally (at Guantanamo, only 4 so far, that&#8217;s not even 1 a year)&#8230;<br />
the thing is, it&#8217;s understood that in wars, people can be killed.  The novelty here was to try to shake up and redefine some of the most agreed-upon tenets of civilization&#8211; that torture is never EVER justified, period, no exceptions.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I fear my college classmate Barack Obama&#8217;s &#8220;pragmatism&#8221; (regardless of whether he will &#8220;close Guantanamo&#8230;&#8221; for which he seems to have now given himself <i>up to two years more</i>) will dictate that he not pursue accountability for those responsible (up to and including his predecessor), thereby allowing this unlawful, unConstitutional, and uncivilized precedent to stand.  Here&#8217;s hoping I&#8217;m wrong about that.</p>
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