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	<title>Comments on: Good riddance, Gonzales, but don’t forget Cheney and Addington, the true architects of torture</title>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington: Will Eric Holder Be The Anti-Torture Hero? &#124; BlackNewsTribune.com</title>
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		<description>[...] the independence of the Attorney General is supposed to be a given &#8212; which made the abominable betrayal of that independence by Alberto Gonzales so wounding &#8212; in reality, even the most principled [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Will Eric Holder Be The Anti-Torture Hero? by Andy Worthington &#171; Dandelion Salad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Eric Holder Be The Anti-Torture Hero? by Andy Worthington &#171; Dandelion Salad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the independence of the Attorney General is supposed to be a given — which made the abominable betrayal of that independence by Alberto Gonzales so wounding — in reality, even the most principled [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington: Will Eric Holder Be The Anti-Torture Hero? - My First New Blog</title>
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		<description>[...] the independence of the Attorney General is supposed to be a given &#8212; which made the abominable betrayal of that independence by Alberto Gonzales so wounding &#8212; in reality, even the most principled [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andy Worthington</title>
		<link>http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2007/08/28/good-riddance-gonzales-but-dont-forget-cheney-and-addington-the-true-architects-of-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-4882</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After this article was published on Counterpunch, I received the following message:

GONZALES&#039; CONFUSION ABOUT EXPRESS AND CUSTOMARY RIGHTS

During the controversy over the 2000 presidential election, I recall some discussion (perhaps even in the Supreme Court) that voting in presidential elections, at least, was NOT a federally protected right at all – UNLESS state legislatures, in their sole discretion, independent even of the states for which they spoke, CHOSE popular election, as the means of selecting a state&#039;s presidential electors. That decision – popular election of a state&#039;s electors – is always revocable by the legislature (some claim), even after the election.

In counting the electoral votes, of course, Congress need not acquiesce in an outrage – such as a state legislature&#039;s invalidating a popular election for that state&#039;s presidential electors.

The Florida legislature&#039;s post-2000 election threat to award Florida&#039;s electors to Mr. Bush by concurrent resolution was, I believe, the REAL reason for the Supreme Court&#039;s otherwise incomprehensible intervention in that election AND its decision in Mr. Bush&#039;s favor, as well as the Democrats&#039; acquiescence in that decision.

The myth of popular election of the president needed to be kept alive. Forget about vote fraud and voter suppression in 2000! The US doesn&#039;t have anything approaching the direct election of the president, even in legal theory! State legislatures control everything; and they may elect directly, if they choose.

I, however, hold the view shared by a tiny minority, only: that constitutional crises are best faced, when they arise, rather than avoided. The price of avoiding such conflicts can prove fatal to a country; and there was never a better time than November and December 2000, and even early January 2001, for preventing a Bush administration. 

Respectfully,

BRUCE TYLER WICK
Attorney at Law</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After this article was published on Counterpunch, I received the following message:</p>
<p>GONZALES&#8217; CONFUSION ABOUT EXPRESS AND CUSTOMARY RIGHTS</p>
<p>During the controversy over the 2000 presidential election, I recall some discussion (perhaps even in the Supreme Court) that voting in presidential elections, at least, was NOT a federally protected right at all – UNLESS state legislatures, in their sole discretion, independent even of the states for which they spoke, CHOSE popular election, as the means of selecting a state&#8217;s presidential electors. That decision – popular election of a state&#8217;s electors – is always revocable by the legislature (some claim), even after the election.</p>
<p>In counting the electoral votes, of course, Congress need not acquiesce in an outrage – such as a state legislature&#8217;s invalidating a popular election for that state&#8217;s presidential electors.</p>
<p>The Florida legislature&#8217;s post-2000 election threat to award Florida&#8217;s electors to Mr. Bush by concurrent resolution was, I believe, the REAL reason for the Supreme Court&#8217;s otherwise incomprehensible intervention in that election AND its decision in Mr. Bush&#8217;s favor, as well as the Democrats&#8217; acquiescence in that decision.</p>
<p>The myth of popular election of the president needed to be kept alive. Forget about vote fraud and voter suppression in 2000! The US doesn&#8217;t have anything approaching the direct election of the president, even in legal theory! State legislatures control everything; and they may elect directly, if they choose.</p>
<p>I, however, hold the view shared by a tiny minority, only: that constitutional crises are best faced, when they arise, rather than avoided. The price of avoiding such conflicts can prove fatal to a country; and there was never a better time than November and December 2000, and even early January 2001, for preventing a Bush administration. </p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>BRUCE TYLER WICK<br />
Attorney at Law</p>
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		<title>By: University Update - Dick Cheney - Good riddance, Gonzales, but don’t forget Cheney and Addington, the true architects of torture</title>
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		<dc:creator>University Update - Dick Cheney - Good riddance, Gonzales, but don’t forget Cheney and Addington, the true architects of torture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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