Comments on: If the US administration had behaved intelligently, ex-Guantánamo inmate who blew himself up would never have been released http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2007/07/24/if-the-us-administration-had-behaved-intelligently-ex-guantanamo-inmate-who-blew-himself-up-would-never-have-been-released/ Author & journalist Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:26:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: Andy Worthington: The Ten Lies of Dick Cheney (Part Two) | NewsMesh http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2007/07/24/if-the-us-administration-had-behaved-intelligently-ex-guantanamo-inmate-who-blew-himself-up-would-never-have-been-released/comment-page-1/#comment-30817 Andy Worthington: The Ten Lies of Dick Cheney (Part Two) | NewsMesh Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:20:55 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=82#comment-30817 [...] Pentagon has also conveniently ignored the fact that at least six Taliban fighters were released because the US authorities had refused to consult with their Afghan allies. In 2004, officials in [...] [...] Pentagon has also conveniently ignored the fact that at least six Taliban fighters were released because the US authorities had refused to consult with their Afghan allies. In 2004, officials in [...]

]]> By: Andy Worthington: The Ten Lies of Dick Cheney (Part Two) | My 2 Cents Worth http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2007/07/24/if-the-us-administration-had-behaved-intelligently-ex-guantanamo-inmate-who-blew-himself-up-would-never-have-been-released/comment-page-1/#comment-30808 Andy Worthington: The Ten Lies of Dick Cheney (Part Two) | My 2 Cents Worth Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:37:03 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=82#comment-30808 [...] Pentagon has also conveniently ignored the fact that at least six Taliban fighters were released because the US authorities had refused to consult with their Afghan allies. In 2004, officials in [...] [...] Pentagon has also conveniently ignored the fact that at least six Taliban fighters were released because the US authorities had refused to consult with their Afghan allies. In 2004, officials in [...]

]]> By: » Ex-Gitmo Suicide Bomber Fuels Pentagon Propaganda To Be or Not to Be: Is not a question, it is the ultimate temptation (Ahmad Shamlou, Iranian Poet) http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2007/07/24/if-the-us-administration-had-behaved-intelligently-ex-guantanamo-inmate-who-blew-himself-up-would-never-have-been-released/comment-page-1/#comment-28005 » Ex-Gitmo Suicide Bomber Fuels Pentagon Propaganda To Be or Not to Be: Is not a question, it is the ultimate temptation (Ahmad Shamlou, Iranian Poet) Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:45:25 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=82#comment-28005 [...] killed himself with a hand grenade after being cornered by security forces in Pakistan last July, I pointed out that, had the U.S. administration not behaved with arrogant unilateralism, neither Mehsud nor the [...] [...] killed himself with a hand grenade after being cornered by security forces in Pakistan last July, I pointed out that, had the U.S. administration not behaved with arrogant unilateralism, neither Mehsud nor the [...]

]]> By: Identification of ex-Guantanamo Suicide Bomber Unleashes Pentagon Propaganda | freedetainees.org http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2007/07/24/if-the-us-administration-had-behaved-intelligently-ex-guantanamo-inmate-who-blew-himself-up-would-never-have-been-released/comment-page-1/#comment-24613 Identification of ex-Guantanamo Suicide Bomber Unleashes Pentagon Propaganda | freedetainees.org Sun, 11 May 2008 23:17:06 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=82#comment-24613 [...] killed himself with a hand grenade after being cornered by security forces in Pakistan last July, I pointed out that, had the US administration not behaved with arrogant unilateralism, neither Mehsud nor the [...] [...] killed himself with a hand grenade after being cornered by security forces in Pakistan last July, I pointed out that, had the US administration not behaved with arrogant unilateralism, neither Mehsud nor the [...]

]]> By: Andy Worthington http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2007/07/24/if-the-us-administration-had-behaved-intelligently-ex-guantanamo-inmate-who-blew-himself-up-would-never-have-been-released/comment-page-1/#comment-4339 Andy Worthington Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:25:56 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=82#comment-4339 <p>Hi "AR",<br /> Thanks forthe comments, and the insight into the government's sole responsibility for releasing detainees prior to Rasul v. Bush.<br /> As for the veracity of Mehsud's story, I've no idea. He may well have lied, but it remains apparent that the administration released several Taliban leaders because of its refusal to cooperate with well-informed Afghans. What disturbs me is the way that figures in the administration have recently been claiming that as many as 30 released detainees have "returned to the fight," thereby ignoring the validity of your comments and mine. I also have to say that I find it inconceivable that they have any accurate way of knowing who has actually taken up arms again, despite what they say.</p> Hi “AR”,
Thanks forthe comments, and the insight into the government’s sole responsibility for releasing detainees prior to Rasul v. Bush.
As for the veracity of Mehsud’s story, I’ve no idea. He may well have lied, but it remains apparent that the administration released several Taliban leaders because of its refusal to cooperate with well-informed Afghans. What disturbs me is the way that figures in the administration have recently been claiming that as many as 30 released detainees have “returned to the fight,” thereby ignoring the validity of your comments and mine. I also have to say that I find it inconceivable that they have any accurate way of knowing who has actually taken up arms again, despite what they say.

]]> By: AR http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2007/07/24/if-the-us-administration-had-behaved-intelligently-ex-guantanamo-inmate-who-blew-himself-up-would-never-have-been-released/comment-page-1/#comment-4103 AR Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:30:03 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=82#comment-4103 excellent insight. as someone who has filed habeas petitions on behalf of some guantanamo prisoners, I would also point out that these individuals were released before any attorneys were even allowed to represent the prisoners. this falls squarely upon the us government, and its lack of a coherent process in determining who stays and who goes. one thought -- is it confirmed that mehsud was in guantanamo? or could he have been claiming that to bolster his "street cred"? excellent insight. as someone who has filed habeas petitions on behalf of some guantanamo prisoners, I would also point out that these individuals were released before any attorneys were even allowed to represent the prisoners. this falls squarely upon the us government, and its lack of a coherent process in determining who stays and who goes.

one thought — is it confirmed that mehsud was in guantanamo? or could he have been claiming that to bolster his “street cred”?

]]> By: pounce http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2007/07/24/if-the-us-administration-had-behaved-intelligently-ex-guantanamo-inmate-who-blew-himself-up-would-never-have-been-released/comment-page-1/#comment-4018 pounce Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:50:42 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=82#comment-4018 Thank you for the swift reply. You do have a point, while i admit i disagree with what you have to say. You do make a valid point a point which i agree the US needs to address. Good luck with your blog and have fun Pounce Thank you for the swift reply.
You do have a point, while i admit i disagree with what you have to say. You do make a valid point a point which i agree the US needs to address.
Good luck with your blog and have fun
Pounce

]]> By: Andy Worthington http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2007/07/24/if-the-us-administration-had-behaved-intelligently-ex-guantanamo-inmate-who-blew-himself-up-would-never-have-been-released/comment-page-1/#comment-4015 Andy Worthington Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:26:27 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=82#comment-4015 Thanks for the reply. No, I’m blaming the Yanks for letting this geezer free because he was one of the few genuinely dangerous Taliban leaders in Guantánamo, and because he would not have been released if the US authorities had taken the advice of their allies in Afghanistan, instead of acting with unilateral arrogance. I don’t think everyone in Guantánamo is innocent of any wrong-doing. I know that there are (still) a handful of Taliban leaders who should have been tried and convicted of war crimes, and a few dozen al-Qaeda members who should also have been tried as criminals. My concerns about the illegal prison at Guantánamo are two-fold: firstly, that imprisoning innocent men and Taliban foot soldiers, who were in Afghanistan before 9/11 to fight other Muslims, for five and half years without charge or trial, in an experimental prison devoted to extracting “actionable intelligence” from people who had no “actionable intelligence,” and where the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques” was widely practiced, is both wrong and counter-productive, and secondly, because, by its actions, the administration has made it extremely difficult – if not impossible – to prosecute successfully the handful of people who are genuinely dangerous. Thanks for the reply. No, I’m blaming the Yanks for letting this geezer free because he was one of the few genuinely dangerous Taliban leaders in Guantánamo, and because he would not have been released if the US authorities had taken the advice of their allies in Afghanistan, instead of acting with unilateral arrogance. I don’t think everyone in Guantánamo is innocent of any wrong-doing. I know that there are (still) a handful of Taliban leaders who should have been tried and convicted of war crimes, and a few dozen al-Qaeda members who should also have been tried as criminals. My concerns about the illegal prison at Guantánamo are two-fold: firstly, that imprisoning innocent men and Taliban foot soldiers, who were in Afghanistan before 9/11 to fight other Muslims, for five and half years without charge or trial, in an experimental prison devoted to extracting “actionable intelligence” from people who had no “actionable intelligence,” and where the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques” was widely practiced, is both wrong and counter-productive, and secondly, because, by its actions, the administration has made it extremely difficult – if not impossible – to prosecute successfully the handful of people who are genuinely dangerous.

]]> By: pounce http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2007/07/24/if-the-us-administration-had-behaved-intelligently-ex-guantanamo-inmate-who-blew-himself-up-would-never-have-been-released/comment-page-1/#comment-4014 pounce Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:16:41 +0000 http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/?p=82#comment-4014 Hang on, let me get this right. You are blaming the yanks for letting this Gezzer free as the reason he is took up terrorism (Again) and is now brown bread? Remind me again about how you promote on your blog how Guantánamo is America’s Illegal Prison. and Andy before you post I'm brown skinned, have a muslim name and look like a terrorist. Hang on, let me get this right.
You are blaming the yanks for letting this Gezzer free as the reason he is took up terrorism (Again) and is now brown bread?
Remind me again about how you promote on your blog how Guantánamo is America’s Illegal Prison.
and Andy before you post
I’m brown skinned, have a muslim name and look like a terrorist.

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